Post # 1
I know the answer to this question is specific to each photographer, but I’m looking for some general feedback from those of you who are photographers or those of you who have been in a similar situation. I do plan on asking my own photographer what his personal take is, but I sort of want to be prepared for the most likely response.
My sister is starting out as a makeup artist and is building her portfolio. She is wonderful with makeup, and I’m going to have her do mine for my e-pics and the wedding. I know she is looking to collect photos for her portfolio so she can expand her business, and I want to ask my photographer if he would allow her to use some of his photos of me in her portfolio. So I guess my question is, would most photographers have any issues with such a request, or is this pretty commonly done?
Thanks for any perspective you can give me on this. 🙂
Post # 3
Hmmm I might but under a few conditions
1. The makeup artist would only get edited and watermarked copies of photos, nothing original or high resolution
2. Wherever used, the photo must always be credited to myself and unaltered
3. All use must be preapproved
And that’s only if I really like them. I wouldn’t let some random makeup artist (whether it be a family member of a client or whoever) use my work for nothing. I’d almost certainly charge something for use too. It would definitly be on a case-by-case basis. Personally ‘it’d come down to whether I like the person and if they agreed to all ofm y conditions (plus fee).
Post # 4
This is typically handled two ways:
The makeup artist hires the photographer to take portfolio images. The photographer or the makeup artist supply the model
The makeup artist and photographer go into a mutual TRADE agreement, where the makeup artist supplies free or discounted makeup for a future photographer’s customer that paid for this service, and the photographer in turn gives the makeup artist a copy of the images with usage rights for their portfolio.
In either case a full model release is required.
As easy going as photographers are, we are generally not in the business of working for free. For you to give the images to the makeup artist, the photographer would have to give up copyright. A more probable path for this to happen would be for the photographer to issue the images to the makeupartist with separate usage terms.
When images are used commercially, there is typically a separate agreement between the client and photographer and the value on the images INCREASES because now they are being used to generate business, and not being used for personal enjoyment or use.
I suggest your friend contact the photographer directly, which keeps you out of being the middleman. See if they can workout a trade agreement or see what the photographers fee would be to issue commercial usage rights to the images for her to use in her portfolio.
Post # 5
Thank you! I knew it would involve transferring usage rights for commercial purposes, which is why I figured some photographers might not want to do it. But on the other hand, people like MU artists need to build their portfolios somehow, so they’re getting pics somewhere – I just wasn’t sure whether they’re largely getting photos for trade from photographers who are starting out (my sister has done this already with a few clients) or whether more established photographers are ever willing to do this.
Any idea what kind of fees a photographer might charge to give usage rights to a makeup artist for her portfolio? I realize it would vary…but is there a ballpark figure? If it helps, in terms of our photographer’s pricing, we are paying him $3000 for 7 hours of wedding day coverage with a second shooter, a flush-mount album, engagement session, and edited digital pics – which includes usage rights for us.
If nothing else, I suppose we can always just snap a few digital pics with our own camera – then she’ll have those, at least, even if asking the photographer doesn’t pan out. I just know having a wedding in her portfolio would be huge for her.
Post # 6
I let any vendor that asks use photos in their portfolio unless they were just horrendous & I could never recommend them to a bride. (Such as a venue that made a bride cry once because they messed everything up.) Otherwise, I am more than happy to let anyone use my photos. They simply just need to ask me or the bride.
Post # 7
I’m an event planner. Ever photographer usually give me and other vendors their photographs with no issues, just as long as we mention the photographer or use watermarked copies. I always use watermarked copies.
Post # 8
Yeah, I always ask that they put a link & credit line under the photo or somewhere on the website but that is my only requirement.
Post # 9
I use this when pricing commercial work, photo’s used for advertising, billboards, magazines, mailers, or websites. It’s usually a negotiated fee depending on many factors. This guide is a starting point, and I have used it when some publications have asked me to purchase an image, and most recently for images on a business website for advertising.
But some photographers don’t realize the value in commerical photography, and just care about being compensated for their time. Prices for portrait sessions are typically 100-200 dollars, and sometimes include digital images, but sometimes the CD is purchased separately. The commercial usage fee would be on top of that.
It’s true that some photographers may give images away, but these would probably be websize and watermarked, not the most professional for a business website or mailer. I suppose it would be a starting point though that would be inexpensive.
Post # 10
Update: I contacted my photographer and he was very cool about it, said he has no problem with it as long as he is credited. Huzzah! 🙂