Post # 16
Well no, suicide is not remotely linked to karma.
I believe in karma in a reap what you sow sense, I think it’s individual though and not family linked. Right not Mother-In-Law is annoyed I don’t call her to chat about the wedding etc which is just her reaping what she sowed for years. She didn’t want a close relationship for many years and cried when my fiancé told her we were engaged, she tried to talk him out of it when we booked the venue and now she’s annoyed I don’t want to chat about flowers and colours with her, it doesn’t work like that.
As far as the generation curses people are talking about, it’s complete BS. You could look at my family and say they have a generation curse, a grandad who was a violent alcoholic leading to my dad and multiple uncles and an aunt who are violent alcoholic and potentially that will filter down to the next generation. It’s not a curse, it’s shitty parenting, learned behaviour and never being equipped to deal with your emotions from a young age.
Post # 17
Karma isn’t some cosmic bookkeeper that doles out random punishments based on bad things you or your family did in the past. That’s not what karma is about. Karma is a major component of one of the world’s largest religions so if you really want to know about karma, it’s pretty easy to research it.
If bad things happen to your family at a higher rate than other families, you may have some underlying conditions that need to be examined. For example, a family history of mentail health disorders combined with low income (which leads to lack of insurance, which in turn leads to lack of access to treatment) could translate to a high rate of suicide, and a family history f heart disease combined with settling in certain areas (ie suburban or rural where everyone drives everywhere, rather than living in cities where you walk a lot) could contribute to lots of early deaths by heart attack. It may be worth talking to a doctor or two to see if there’s any preventative care you and your family should be taking.
Post # 18
I believe you often reap.what you sow.
Some families are rampant with. bad choices and results are apparent.
I think nature and nurture can both come into play.
Post # 19
100% your bloodline has been cursed by a witch.
Post # 20
If a family has a lot of death and disability from a certain disease, it is a circumstance of genetics (for some diseases), not a curse. My dad and his 3 siblings all died from heart disease. I always thought of it as a predisposition, not a curse.
Live by the sword, die by the sword. Another way of saying reap what you sow.
Kids growing up often mirror what they see. The older siblings get into illegal behavior, or smoke, or have a fascination with firearms or drugs, the possibilities are endless. We also may have positive behaviors modeled in families, but in this question that isn’t the point.
Post # 21
No. I believe in genetics, poor (learned) habits, dysfunctional relationships, and selection/ confirmation and other cognitive biases.
Post # 22
Of course not. Please. Isn’t it far more likely that closely related individuals are more likely to share traits linked to dysfunction, whether impulsivity, risk taking, inability to see a big picture, physical and mental health and issues or that they have learned behaviors from a less advantageous environment that make it less likely they will thrive in society?
And unfortunately sometimes it’s just bad luck and the laws of chance.
Post # 23
ladyvictoria : Yes. I have a childhood friend whose parents were the most loving and affectionate couple I ever saw. Their family was super close and happy. When she was 17 her mom suffered a stroke and was completely gone. She lived on life support for about 4 years.
Meanwhile the once doting father ran off and left my friend to tend for her younger siblings. Its been over 10 years and hes still being a terrible dad to the point that she has blocked him from her life.
She married a wonferful man who got cancer at a young age. He survived thankfully and they had a daughter who developed bad epilepsy.
He sister seemed to be doing ok and one week she couldnt get a hold of her, found out the sister was in jail with her boyfriend for some sort of crimes (they had no prior issues of this nature).
I always wonder why so much bad stuff has come to this sweet girl. Shes still one of the kindest people I know.
On the other hand my whole family is terrible (addicts, etc). But Ive separated myself and done well so I feel like Im breaking that pattern.
Post # 24
I don’t believe in karma, as a principle, primarily because I don’t believe in reincarnation or predestination. However, I (obviously) believe that people’s choices impact their life outcomes. That said, people’s choices also impact the lives of those around them, especially their children. Biblically speaking, there can also be a spiritual/supernatural element there as well because I believe some of the “bad” things people experience are the consequences of sin. And some of it has to do with havoc intentionally created by the devil (as with Job). But much more often, I think most of it boils down to decisions. For example, patterns a person observed in childhood impacts how they visualize their future, which in turn translates into dating preferences and career choices, etc. But it can also affect mundane things like what neighborhood they gravitate toward and whether or not they have pets.
Imagine Susan was injured and can no longer walk. That’s a bitter pill to swallow when you consider the unpleasant upbringing she had, or the fact that her uncle and brother have had a rough go of it as well. Maybe Susan and her family are just unlucky? It might sound strange to say: I’m paralyzed, because I fell down the stairs, because I subconciously chose a home with no carpet, because during my childhood my mother complained bitterly about always having to vacuum, because my father always yelled at her about keeping the house clean, because he was abusive, because he was an alcoholic, because he was battling depression after the war, and so on and so on. But I think it’s definitely a thing since lots of elements our lives can be intertwined that way, and oftentimes unbeknownst to us.
So because families are close and their decisions tend to influence each other more than anyone else, yes, it would be quite normal for someone who had a hard life to raise someone who also ends up suffering a lot of misfortune (even if in different ways). And then of course, there’s always plain old coincidence.
Post # 25
- Wedding: April 2019 - USA
lauralaura123 : Don’t believe in curses but I do believe in group karma. There is individual karma as well, but for people who are closely related to each other there are certain issues/patterns that have to be worked through with that group of people to clear the collective karma of that group. The work that each individual does in their own lives can work for or against that group karma. Also, I see karma as a cause & effect phenomenon.