(Closed) Do You Consider Yourself A Feminist?

posted 7 years ago in The Lounge
  • poll: Do You Consider Yourself A Feminist?

    Yep, I'm a Feminist

    I believe in equal rights and all, but I don't like the label.

    Not really.

    Not at all

  • Post # 167
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    Buzzing Beekeeper

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    @peachacid:  No I wasn’t refering to those situations. Just the ones were judgement still comes even though it was clearly a joint decision. Same way that the women blame the stripper who is doing her job  for their man visiting a strip joint. Calling the stripper every name int he book but excusing the guys behaviour because thats just being a guy! Drives me nuts.

    Another good example is sanctimums who love nothing better than to tear other women down for things like not breast feeding or not cloth diapering etc etc.

     

    Post # 168
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    Bee Keeper

    I find it depressing that 20% of the people who voted don’t believe men and women are equal.

    To answer the question: yes, I am a feminist. I believe men and women should be treated equally and currently that is simply not the case; anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded.

    Post # 169
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    Buzzing Beekeeper
    • Wedding: June 2013

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    @j_jaye:  I completely agree with you, then!!  Especially about strippers.  

    Post # 170
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: October 2014 - UK

    I’m honestly surprised how many people voted that they weren’t feminists. I would have thought that simply being a woman and believing that your gender did not make you less than anyone else that you were a feminist.

    Needless to say, I am one.

    Post # 171
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    Buzzing Beekeeper
    • Wedding: June 2013

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    @barbie86:  

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    @chronicwhimsy:  I have a feeling that those who voted in that way think either that feminist is a bad word (scroll through and see how many people reject the word) or that they think, like, men are better firefighters than women and because of that, they can’t be feminists.  

     

     

    Post # 172
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: October 2014 - UK

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    @peachacid:  I can’t bring myself to scroll through, because I know what the internet is like, and I don’t handle it well.

    Post # 173
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    Bumble Beekeeper
    • Wedding: October 2014

    Let me say that these are my opinion, if you don’t agree with them that is fine – I am NOT here to start an arguement on why you think feminism is awesome.

    I wish there was an option for “Somewhat”.

    I do agree with equality. I don’t always think men should be the head of the household, nor do I think that the woman should be barefoot & pregnant in the kitchen. I think many women are perfectly capable of supporting their households & holding jobs and there is certainly nothing wrong with that.

    When it comes to wages, I feel that for the most part, women tend to make less because women have the most cushy type jobs. I can’t see why a woman would think that sitting in an air conditioned office making phone calls, should make as much as a man who is out in the blazing sun putting a roof on a house. HOWEVER – If said woman in cushy office jobs wants to take the job in the blazing sun putting roofing houses, she SHOULD make the same amount that any man doing the same job does.

    I feel that men in these types of jobs get paid more money because they have more actual physical work to do, and the strength to do it. I can certainly say that my fiance can life/carry larger loads than I can. That doesn’t make me a frail women who shouldn’t work.. it makes me a woman who just doesn’t have the build of a man! There isn’t a single thing wrong with it.

    When it comes to jobs where men and women are in the exact same position, doing the exact same thing, I feel they SHOULD get the same amount [let’s for instance, say it’s flipping burgers and mcdonald’s]. There is no reason why a woman should make less.

    I don’t think there is anything wrong with porn, magazines, movies, tv shows, advertisements or anything else involving women. The women in these things are choosing to do so, and it obviously empowers them. Nobody says you have to look/read/watch any of it if you don’t agree with it. The only thing that bothers me about any of these is the over-use of photoshop giving girls & women a false sense of beauty – of perfectionism. But let’s face it, these types of beauty ads have been around FOREVER. We need to REMEMBER & TEACH our friends/family/children that what you see in a magazine is NOT real life and that those type of “perfections” are normally more sculpted with makeup and photoshop.

    I cook dinner every night, I don’t feel like I have to. I love making my fiance great food, and I LOVE cooking. Not because I’m told I should “be in the kitchen”, but because I am a much better cook than fiance.

    I LIKE when my fiance treats me like a lady, he often opens & closes doors for me, he carries in the groceries, and he takes the trash out. Yes, I’m perfectly capable of doing those things, but I love that he does them for me. He also loves that I bake him goodies to take in to his work and pass out to his co-workers.

    In a perfect world, I WOULD be a stay-at home mom with a home based or part time job. I don’t feel “opressed”. I understand that not everyone feels this way, but it’s the way I feel.

     

    Post # 174
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    Bumble Beekeeper
    • Wedding: October 2014

    Ugh, there are alot of spelling errors in there but I don’t want to fix it because then I’ll have to take out all the lame spaces the website adds. >.>

    Post # 175
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: October 2013

    I believe in equal rights, but I don’t believe that men and women are the same, have the same capabilities, skills, or thinking patterns/instincts (for lack of a better word).  Equal but different!  And I am all for men doing manly things like holding a door open for me lol, and I’ll bake cookies for them as a thank you for helping with something.  

    I’m a lady, not a feminist hehe 😉

    Post # 177
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    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: January 2012

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    @Woodstock:  This too!

    Post # 178
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: May 2014

    Definitely a feminist. 

    I used to think it was a bad word until I started working in a male dominated field.  Now I am full-heartedly, 100% a feminist.

    Edited to add:  Feminism is about choice.  I choose to cook, clean, and work full time.  I have the upmost respect the women who stay home and raise children.  And while I like what I do, I’d never want to be forced into that role. 

    Being able to make the decision about what you do with your life is important to your wellbeing and happiness.  Feminism preserves that right.

    Post # 179
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: September 2010

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    @jenilynevette:  

    I’m not sure where you are getting the idea that women have cushier jobs than men– just because, what, construction and mining have mostly men? Women have been working dangerous jobs for centuries (factories, etc). Have you ever seen the TV show “How Its Made”? It shows how a wide variety of products are made in factories, the vast majority of them I’ve seen are dominated by women.

     

    It blows my mind that people are so confused by what feminism is. DUH, women and men are biologically a bit different- this is about treating them EQUALLY.

    I’m a feminist because in the USA 1 in 4 women will be sexually assaulted at least once in their life. Worldwide, violence against women is now considered on an epidemic level. Women between the ages of 14-55 are more likely to be killed or maimed by men than by cancer, car accidents, and war combined.

    Post # 180
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: July 2014

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    @julies1949:  

     

    First off, the go-to arugement used on this thread is how women aren’t paid as much as men….If the is that staple as to why you call yourself a feminist, then that makes me sad. I haven’t seen a post (truthfully though I havn’t read them all, but most) about how women are completely repressed in other countries, shouldn’t that be the motivation of feminism??

     

    Also with the pay difference, I think we can all agree that there are jobs where women make more than men. Focusing on the jobs where men make more to make a point, is a void point to me. Considering there are female CEO’s/presidents/buisness owners/political figures, etc. I can’t find the justification of saying women have it so badly in the workeforce. And for the women who do have it bad (and i’m sure there is quite a bit) i’m sure you can find just as many men, as well as gays, blacks, foreigners, etc who have it just as bad or worse then women! So no, I don’t think it’s a feminist issue, I think it’s a societal issues, and we should support EVERYONE to have EQUITY not equality.

     

    The same goes for the arugement of women being raped. Men are getting raped more and more, even by females, and for that mtter, I think men are given a much harder time when they are the rape victim than a female. So again I don’t see this as a feminist issue, it’s a societal issue.

     

    Unless you can demonstrate a situation where only women are being victims of inequality, then I think feminism is useless and people should focus on everybody having equity and not just focusing on one group of people just because you are part of that group. For the record, I do think there are some situations where only women are the victims, but I haven’t seen them being mention by people who call them self a feminist, which makes me take the whole movement less seriously.

     

    You all have interesting perspectives that I enjoy reading, however, I don’t think anyones opinion is going to be changed over a wedding forum website lol and nothing new is being said, so I will be leaving the conversation now. Agree to disagree and live and let live.

    Post # 181
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    Bumble Beekeeper
    • Wedding: July 2013 - UK

    Absolutely a feminist. I also find this thread really depressing.

    The only thing I will comment on is that, many years ago, I read an interesting feminist blog in which the blogger was anti-abortion. Her argument was that patriarchy had created a system whereby children were seen as a burden, society did not support mothers or value their contributions, and men were not expected to perform caring or nurturing roles. Many women therefore aborted because they were improperly supported by society… a more equal society would support women so that they could rear their children. It made me think about things (although, of course, it does not remove the fact that real, actual women are not supported, and we live in the real world… not an imaginary, future, equal world).

    The other thing that bothers me is the statement which I have heard some people make… namely that “if you support any restrictions on abortion whatsoever, you are not pro-choice”. I read one article in which the blogger says “and yes, this includes being in favour of sex-selective abortions”. Well, I’m not on board with that. I fail to see how it is feminist to support the abortion of female foetuses on the say so of patriarchal members of society which do not value women either in their grown, or foetal, form. Increasingly, I say that I am neither pro-life nor pro-choice (although if I absolutely had to choose, I would go down as pro-choice…). I don’t like some of the arguments which come with either perspective… and I’m not sure that makes me a bad feminist. Just a thoughtful one.

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