(Closed) Do You Consider Yourself A Feminist?

posted 7 years ago in The Lounge
  • poll: Do You Consider Yourself A Feminist?

    Yep, I'm a Feminist

    I believe in equal rights and all, but I don't like the label.

    Not really.

    Not at all

  • Post # 197
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    Sugar Beekeeper
    • Wedding: December 2010

    I consider myself a human being who believes in equal rights for all human beings no matter their gender, race, religion, or sexual orientation. 

    Post # 198
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    Blushing bee
    • Wedding: September 2014

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    @MrsWishyWashy:  I think feminism is all about choice.  You can have traditional roles and still be a feminist, as long as you believe that women should have the choice to do what they want.  You could be a stay at home mom and still believe that men and women should get paid the same.  I totally agree with you on this.

    Post # 200
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: June 2014

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    @jenilynevette:  You don’t consider factory work dangerous? Seriously? You should tell that to my friend who lost four of her fingers on one hand and has nerve damage in the other from a factory accident.

    Men and women don’t have to do the SAME jobs, but if they do, they should be paid the same. The jobs themselves is not the issue. And do you really think that men who do construction wouldn’t prefer a “cush” inside job? I find your comments bizarre, honestly. And I don’t know about where you live, but whenever I pass a construction site/road job, 9/10 times there is at least one woman on the crew. 

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    @MrsWishyWashy:  You can 100% be part of a “traditional” relationship and still be feminists!

    Post # 201
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: September 2013

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    @Kate0558:  I think it’s interesting that someone who self-describes as “the polar opposite of a feminist” also posts threads about being underpaid and passed up for promotions. I’d imagine that someone who notices these things, and is bothered by them, would be at the forefront of women’s rights issues.

    Post # 202
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    Helper bee
    • Wedding: May 2015

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    @Kate0558:  How so?

    Post # 203
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    Honey Beekeeper
    • Wedding: November 1999

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    @jenilynevette:  The difference in wages is not between the woman who sits in the air-conditioned office and the man who does heavy physical work.

    The difference in wages as clearly shown in the chart is between men and women who do the SAME job.

    It’s amazing to me that so many women in the post clearly have no idea what the defintion of feminist is.

    Feminism has nothing to do with you choosing to cook dinner, or liking the act that your partner treats you like a lady. Feminism fully supports women having choices.

    If you WANT to be a Stay-At-Home Wife or Stay-At-Home Mom, go at it. If you HAVE to be a Stay-At-Home Wife or Stay-At-Home Mom because other choices are not available to you, that is where the work of feminists is creating opportunity for women.

    Post # 204
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: September 2012

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    @jenilynevette:  Quite honestly, until I see more women doing jobs that were designed for men [construction, carpentry, electrician, miners, pilots, oil rigs, trash collectors, steel workers, and any other typically difficult labor job], because they WANT to, I still hold my same thought. Many women simply don’t want to do these types of jobs.

    I think your statement here is exactly why we still need feminism.  These aren’t jobs specifically designed for men.  They are simply jobs that need to get done.  Now they are typically male dominated because men are more physically capable (and that’s ok).  But when you start saying that X is a man’s job and Y is a women’s job, I think that’s an issue.  Also, when people talk about pay inequality, I am pretty sure they mean inequality when men and women hold the same position; not just in general.

    Finally, HI!  My name is Runswithbears.  I did landscaping for several years in college (and LOVED it).  I’m also planning on quitting my job to become a mountain guide.  Now you know a woman who prefers to work outdoors.

    Post # 205
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: October 2013

    Aside from pay there are SO MANY other societal issues regarding men and women. 

    Analyzing just how women are portrayed in the entertainment industry alone is a good indicator of the problems women still face. 

    This is how I see it: 

    Racism did not stop with the civil rights movement. Sexism did not stop when women gained the right to vote. 

    Therefore, yes. I am a feminist. Proudly! 

    Post # 206
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: July 2014

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    @julies1949:  Your response is lacking sense in many ways. Feminism is not about women doing better than men. It is about equity. Women and men should be treated the same. Full stop.



    I can say the same about your response! LOL

    Please tell me where I said feminism is about women doing better than men?? I don’t even know how you manage to make that up…..

    Second of all, yes it is about EQUITY!!! But you following that up with “women ad men should be treated the same” points me to believe you have no idea what equity means. PLUS if you really believe in EQUITY as oppose to EQUALITY then maybe feminist should change their definition: “the advocacy of women’s rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men.”


    And i’m done pretending to have a conversation with you now.

    Post # 207
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    Honey Beekeeper
    • Wedding: November 1999

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    @Brace2014:

    When I think of equity, I refer to the qualities of justness, fairness, impartiality and even handedness. When I think about equality, I am talking about equal sharing and exact division.

    You jump all over someone for the choice or use of one word, but ignore the rest of their arguement – the fact that you owe your current status to the work of feminists.

    I don’t happen to think it is just or fair to pay men and women different wages for doing the same job. Like many things in life, the is much overlap between equity and equality.

    Salary is only one issue that concerns feminists, but it does sometimes seem to be the one that resonates most and is the easiest to explain to “non-feminists”- something to help them latch on to the reasoning for the existence of feminsism. Feminists are at work all over the world addressing other issues and speaking up for women and men who are oppressed.

     

     

     

    Post # 208
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    Busy bee

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    @jenilynevette:  That’s all fine, but are blue collar workers paid more than office workers? I think when people refer to women moving up on the income level, they mean moving more into tech and science fields. 

    Post # 209
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    Buzzing Beekeeper
    • Wedding: June 2013

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    @Brace2014:  Are you saying you are not a feminist because you disagree with the textbook definition?  

    Post # 210
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    Newbee
    • Wedding: August 2015

    feminism saved my life! There is so much diversity and differing of opinions in the movement, but for me it is about equality and empowerment. 

    Post # 211
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    Blushing bee
    • Wedding: July 2012

    Haven’t read much of the thread… but wanted to add that I’m a humanist… I’d rather advocate for equal rights of all walks of life regardless of gender. 

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