(Closed) Do You Consider Yourself A Feminist?

posted 7 years ago in The Lounge
  • poll: Do You Consider Yourself A Feminist?

    Yep, I'm a Feminist

    I believe in equal rights and all, but I don't like the label.

    Not really.

    Not at all

  • Post # 212
    Hostess
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    Bumble Beekeeper
    • Wedding: October 2014

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    @jessicadarling:  There are risks with any job. I wouldn’t consider factory work a “high risk” envionment at all.

    Post # 213
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    Bumble Beekeeper
    • Wedding: October 2014

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    @RunsWithBears:  I have never said that women NEVER work these types of jobs – I said that most women will NOT work these types of jobs, and I only consider them jobs for “men” because women not wanting to do them. Congrats on working outdoors though, but I still believe you are in the minority of women who are willing to.

    Post # 214
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    Bumble Beekeeper
    • Wedding: October 2014

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    @julies1949:  And as I said before, I totally believe that men and women working the same job should make the same pay, that isn’t even an arguement for me.

    However, in my daily life, the women I’ve encountered who complain about not making as much as their husbands/male friends/whoever, work in retail or other cushy type jobs that aren’t physically demanding.

    My opinions are solely based on facts that I see in my daily life, obviously, I’m not from where everyone else is, and I don’t hold much on studies or statistics as both fo those are easily tainted.

    Post # 215
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    Busy bee

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    @Brace2014:  I’m greatful that the feminist movement gave you the right to have these opinions, no matter how much I disagree with them. I think you characterized your awareness of the issue well when you admitted you hadn’t bothered to read people’s posts, but that you definitely disagreed with them and then outlined why.

    Post # 216
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    Bumble bee

    Yes, I am a feminist.  I think it’s unfortunate when people equate that with bra-burning women who yell at men who open doors for them.  Feminism and overzealous craziness don’t necessarily go hand in hand.  And I think it’s sad when women declare themselves not feminists because I think it’s self-loathing.  When a woman says that she believes in equal rights but doesn’t consider herself a feminist to disassociate herself from the extremists I think she’s misguided and, in fact, a feminist.

    Post # 218
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: April 2015

    My takeaway from this thread is that NOW/Ms./some other well-funded feminist organization needs to do a huge Public Service Announcement on what feminism actually is.

     

    Post # 219
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    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: June 2015

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    @letigre:  +1

    Oy vey. I just read this entire thread and now think my brain is going to explode. 

    Post # 220
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    Bumble bee

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    @jenilynevette:  I’m sooo confused…you think cushy office jobs should compensate less than physically laboring jobs? That’s a blue/white collar issue, not really gender. Seems like you’re trying to ask why a lawyer makes exponentially more than a construction worker…

    Post # 221
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    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: January 2012

    I voted the second option. Would I actively consider myself a feminist? No. Do I have feminist ideologies, sure. I think it all boils down to how I would describe myself and what issues are closest  to my heart and this isn’t at the top. It’s just not an issue that resonates with me in the same sense as others who proudly wear the label.

    I agree with the poster who said until the heart of it move away from equal wages (the gist of many posters arguments) to what I consider the basic violation of the lives of girls and women as experienced in some developing countries it won’t be something I think about during my everyday life. Especially having not personally experience it.

    What I do consider myself to be is a humanitarian. The suffering of others, child, woman, man, it doesn’t matter is what pulls most strongly at my heartstrings, and that’s what I consider myself an advocate for.

    Post # 222
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    Buzzing Beekeeper
    • Wedding: June 2013

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    @picturemeurs:  People are focusing on wage differences because it’s a concrete example.  It’s not the only problem.

    Post # 223
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: June 2011

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    @peachacid:  EXACTLY. When people don’t see disparity in their immediate vacinity, wage inequality is one example. Wage inequality isn’t the heart of feminism, and I don’t think anyone claimed it was.

    Post # 224
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: September 2016

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    @jenilynevette:  i find it interesting that you seem to think that men naturally enjoy being outside in weather that is sometimes crappy and unstable, so it’s okay for them to put up with sometimes unsafe working conditions because they are men and are supposed to just deal with it. That’s just sexist, don’t you think?

    i’ve met plenty of women who work in trades. Some of them choose to be pretty darn girly, where appropriate (I.e. not undermining safety). I’ve also met women working in male dominated environments (including myself when I was putting myself through uni) where there was sex based discrimination, inappropriate jokes or advances taking place, and honestly, if I had been there longer than four months I would have not handled it and quit rather than taking that machismo workplace culture for longer.  Instead of saying “that’s naturally man’s work”, why not ask why more women aren’t involved?

    Ditto for “women’s work” especially around the home. I would LOVE it if tasks traditionally thought to be women’a work were made easier for men. The average countertop height was designed for the average height of women in the 1950’s. I wish my 6’2″ partner had a countertop surface where he isnt likely to long term give himself back problems from hunching over to dice onions or whatever.  I wish baby wipes weren’t marketed under slogans like “mother’s choice” when men can and should be changing diapers too. I totally consider these feminist issues.

     

    Post # 226
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    Buzzing Beekeeper
    • Wedding: June 2013

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    @SoobySays:  I can’t even articulate what my “biggest” issue is with unfair treatment toward women.  One is that women are taught not to be assertive, and if they are assertive they’re called bitches.  A man who is assertive is called a leader.  I don’t like that girls are taught to let boys speak in high school and college classes, and that women then don’t learn to speak up in a group.  I hate that commercials reinforce the idea that ONLY women cook, clean, and take care of kids.  

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