(Closed) Do you think effort should be rewarded, or results?

posted 5 years ago in The Lounge
Post # 3
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10509 posts
Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: January 2011

I think it’s important to reward both, but in different ways.

It was petty of Clary to make the comments, but I think many people do think those things from time to time.  It can be frustrating to see someone succeed easily without putting in any effort and you’re busting your ass and you still fall behind.  Especially if that person does appear to just take their natural talent for granted.

There’s also the other side of natural abilities though, maybe Clary has an easier time mentally staying focused to put in all the effort than what Phelps does.

Post # 4
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1659 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: July 2012

Results. I blame that kid’s comments on that “everyone gets a trophy” mentality they start in elementary school.

Post # 5
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5118 posts
Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: November 1999

I agree with both PPs. Results are what matter (in competitions like this). Rewards for your hard work, dedication, etc, are one thing and for a different time, but there are just natually gifted people out there and that’s that. So what if Phelps only won 16 metals because he ‘slacked off’ and left the pool early? If he can do that and be happy with that level of achievement, good for him.

The everyone gets a trophy mentality is not helping anyone. Sometimes we need to realize that we can’t all be #1, and that some people have to work really hard just to play the game while others can win championships on pure talent. Such is life. 

Post # 7
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3183 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2012

I can see being frustrated when someone who doesn’t work as hard as you does better.  But that’s life.  Nothing to get mad about. 

Post # 8
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1677 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2011

I agree with PP, especially AB Bride‘s comment about rewarding both differently. I think hard work should be rewarded because it is important, but, in the end, results are what matter. 

Post # 9
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1360 posts
Bumble bee

Unless someone is claiming their work as your own and getting rewarded for it (clearly not the case here), results should always be rewarded above effort.

Post # 10
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1053 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2014 - Cedar Lake Cellars

Hard work will likely reward you in life.  You will have integrity, initiative, and dedication that should bring you success in many future endevors.  But, that doesn’t mean you get to be the best at everything… or at anything.  You may just be more well-rounded and suited to approach a variety of things.

And, I totally agree that it was beyond inappropriate to make these comments.  He should vent to his friends, not to the media.

Post # 11
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220 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: April 2005

Results for sure!  I think this is a huge problem with younger generations, including mine.  Young people are totally entitlement based.  Think they should get something for nothing.  IMO that is why the Occupy movement is such a joke.  Get a job and pay your own loans off.  And, if you can’t get a job, elect people that will make them.  Don’t get angry with the “corporations” that create jobs.  WOW sorry bees mini-vent! 

It drives me nuts that just participating makes you equal to the winner.  What a JOKE!

I know if I want to be top of the food chain after I graduate I need to work my ass off to get good grades. 

Anyway, definitely results.

 

 

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