(Closed) Does anyone else feel out numbered..

posted 7 years ago in Secular
Post # 32
Hostess
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: March 2014 - Chicago, IL

@HappilyGeeky:  Ugh.  I know how you feel.  My grandparents are super old school and when they found out that I’m a non believer I think I disappointed them for the first time in my life, ever, and I will never forget the look on my grandfather’s face.  He brought it up one time since he found out, basically saying I “need to get my shit together.”  What’s worse, is now I’m at a University that’s religious and now, more than ever, I feel outnumbered.  We have a chapel in every dorm and there’s supposedly over 6,000 masses/services/whatever every year on this campus.  I looked for an atheist club to join… and through my searching all I could find was that a few years back some kids try to start a club and the University denied them… they tried to go about it another way (not including the word Atheist in the name) and still denied.  I pretty much live in fear now, because during my first week of school I was told not to talk about my beliefs by another student that was quite liberal and seemed like he had been around for awhile.  My mom tells me all the time to watch what I post on fb and whatnot because she thinks I’ll get kicked out of school for my beliefs.  Go ‘Merica.

Post # 33
Hostess
9694 posts
Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: March 2014 - Chicago, IL

@petalpetal:  Thank you!!  Atheism is not a religion.  We don’t meet once a week, we don’t have support networks, we don’t evade taxes, we don’t have appointed leaders…

Post # 35
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Honey bee

@FutureDrAtkins:  I’d totally start a church of Atheism if I could evade me some taxes. Maybe a church of Wine, Cheese, and Chocolate, where we meet weekly and gorge ourselves, then deduct all the expenses. 

Post # 36
Hostess
9694 posts
Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: March 2014 - Chicago, IL

@SoupyCat:  Yes please 🙂 lol

Post # 37
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

@SoupyCat:  Sign me up!

Yes, I feel absolutely outnumbered, both in my home country and here. I am not agnostic, I am atheist – I believe there is no god, and I am quite strident about living my life accordingly. From all sides I am beseiged by people who insist I must be bad, selfish, totally lacking any moral compass, which is absurd.

Being an atheist in a religious society is so fraught that I often wonder who I should “come out” to in a similar way as I examine who should know about my bisexuality. When people ask, and I’m not “ready” to tell them, I’ve been known to tell a little vaugue, slight white lie, because I fear how it will impact my relationship with them if I am honest. (And if I am, and they react in disgust and never look at me the same, it wouldn’t even be the first time.)

I get incredibly frustrated with people who tell me there’s no point in talking about atheism, that atheists should not come together to talk about their feelings and what they think, that there is no community in a negative belief. If all other things were neutral I would agree with them, but they’re not neutral.

I’ve heard things like “well I don’t care if you’re an atheist, but why do you care so much? I don’t believe in unicorns, but you don’t see me getting together with other unicorn nonbelievers and talking about it.” No… I don’t talk with others, or hold dear, the fact that I don’t believe in unicorns, because no one is pressuring me to believe in them, no one is trying to make laws based on what they think unicorns want, or justify their acts of fear and violence and war by saying that unicorns are on their side and want them to do it.

And in this time of getting married, FH and I feel more outnumbered than usual because of the traditional religious and spiritual things people seem to expect of us, and their disappointment and guilting and hostility when we tell them that no, the words “pray” and “god” and even “soul” will not be spoken. That instead we will celebrate empiricism and the natural world and following OUR path (no one else’s) on the one life we have together.

Apparently that’s hard for people to hear and FH and I are selfish and mean for making those choices, and even worse for defending said choices when they are attacked.

Haha seems you brought out a bit of a vent in me. But…you know you’re not alone!!

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