(Closed) Does racism still exist in America?

posted 8 years ago in The Lounge
Post # 3
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: June 2012

I’m sad to say that I truly believe racism still exists in my city. Our police force is known for not always being above board (hell, our whole CITY is known for that) and I’ve seen it first hand – R and I get no trouble, but some of our African American friends will be stopped for being “suspicious” when they’re just walking down the street. Seriously? In this day and age? I remember Obama actually got ridiculed for commenting on this (his comment was specific to having trouble catching a cab) and people just dug into him… but I can tell you firsthand that it still happens.

There’s also a huge amount of racism against Mexicans in the town my parents live. It has a really high Mexican population (R’s school was majority Mexican) and a fair number of illegal aliens. So the stereotypes and racism abound. It’s really sad to see, because I truly believe that the stereotypes come more from the result of living in poverty than anything about race. Isn’t it oh so easy to point fingers about how people on welfare handle themselves and live their lives when you’ve always had everything provided to you?  

 

Post # 4
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2011

i would definately say that there are still forms of racism out there.

i once met a lady who called a town up here (whitby) white-by because she claimed that there should only be white people let it.

thankfully as a larger nation of people i would say it’s not as dominant, but it’s definately still around.

Post # 5
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: July 2010

I think you just answered your own question, cre. We aren’t post-racial, whatever that means, anyway.

What I’d like to know is how to have more productive conversations about race.

ETA: @lily – that is a good example of how it does still exist. Depending on who you speak to though, I believe the preferred term is undocumented immigrant.

Post # 6
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: October 2010

How many African American couples have you seen in your photographer’s blog, wedding planner’s website, or florist’s lookbook?

 – You won’t see any in mine, but because NO ONE hires me of that race! I blog all my couples regardless of size, race, whatever… 

I’ve met with maybe 2 black couples and both times I wasn’t hired – and a black one was.  At bridal shows, I’ve had HUNDREDS of african american brides come through and gush at my work, not a single one has EVER contacted me.  So… I don’t know, but it makes me really sad that people may think I’m racist because I haven’t been hired by a certain ethnicity.

I take that back, if you go back in my blog to 2007 I had a bi-racial couple for a portrait session… but I doubt anyone goes back that far…

Post # 7
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: June 2010 - Tannery Pond at the Darrow School

Great post, Crebre80…

I think racism is definitely still present in the US, but like you mentioned, when I was little I didn’t think it did.  It’s so sad that it persists, especially in specific regions (sorry to hate on the South but seriously?!?!)

I’m sorry you’ve had some pretty negative, insensitive comments…For what it’s worth, I’ve heard my share of anti-Jew comments (and I’m Jewish) and while I don’t think it’s totally comparable, I can somewhat relate…

Post # 9
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: July 2010

@cre – I know, I was there too, probably six years ago as a freshman/sophomore in college. I guess I was lucky in that I didn’t experience it personally as a younger person, and didn’t learn about systemic racism, until I was older.

@KLP – in psychology, there is some research out there that says that some clients prefer to see counselors of their own racial/ethnic background. I wonder if that applies elsewhere, beyond the field of counseling/psychology, too.

Post # 11
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: July 2010

@crebre love the thread question… this is my experience and no one else…

i was born and race in Puerto Rico… there are racism in Puerto Rico but i never experience it… I move to MA in 2007 when i graduated form collage becuase my daughter was really sick and needed medical attention, someone offer housing and help but when i arrive they change their mind and i was in the streets with my 4yo daughter. i started looking for work and it was clear to me puerto rican carry and stigma, this are my examples:

1) i went to welfare because at the time i need it help. the lady was so rude to me and then said a comment that it was so shocking to me: “you people come here to live from the goverment” i was so mad i started loosing my patience and stormed out of the place… went to live in a shelter for three weeks until i found a place to live… 

2) looking for apartment i call this place and the lady gave me an appointment to see the apartment. when i arrive to the place she took one look at me and told me she though i was american, to my surprise i told her i was to what she replied “no, you are not. you are a SPEAK” (thats how some people call puerto rican in usa.

3) in a job agency they told me that some companies dont even look at a resume when they read a spanish name in it… i tried and it was true… two resumes to same place. the two of them were the same, the only thing that change was the name, one with my real name and one with a non hispanic name… the call the one with the non hispanic name, i went to the interview and when the saw me the interview lasted 2 minutes… 

4) last one im a spanish teacher in middle school and i see a lot of parent that dont want their kids to learn spanish because racist reasons… 

This are my experiences… i do understand that here where i live there are a lot of puerto rican living a bad life and behaving really bad but still not everybody is the same… for me is sad to watch the news every night and 95% of the criminals are puerto rican or half… is sad to be judge by the actions of others and not mine…

my daughter is 7 and her skin is darker than my Fiance and I.  one day we were in walmart and one of my student saw me, i introduce my daughter to that student and the first comment was “why she is darker than you?” i was in total shock… i smile and said because everybody is different. my daughter asked me int he car why she was darker and i have to explain to her that puerto rican comes in every color and that her great grandparents were black… 

all of these had been a great learning experience about reality and life… 

Post # 12
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Buzzing bee

There are two different forms of racism being talked about here.

One is more of a personal racism (i.e. Uncle Buck hates all blacks and mexicans) and the other is more of a societal form of racism. When people say that racism doesn’t exist they tend to be talking about personal racism because it is less acceptable to say racial slurs and such in public.

I took a class in college called “The Politics of Difference” and it really opened up my eyes to social injustices in our country. It talked a lot about white privilege and whether you believe it or not, simply being white (or male, or straight, or Christian) in this country gives you more of a privilege than those who are not.

I live in a small beach suburb of LA. LA itself is very diverse but everyone in my city is white or asian for the most part. It is a well known fact that just being black or mexican puts you on the police’s radar :/

Post # 13
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: July 2010

upsss sorry it is so long

Post # 16
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: September 2010

How many African American couples have you seen in your photographer’s blog, wedding planner’s website, or florist’s lookbook?

i picked my photographer for two things:

one – her pictures were gorgeous AND she was well within my price range

two – she had a wide range of ethnicities in her porfolio

because my wedding will be a rainbow of colors to include me and FH, i had to make sure the photographer was able to shoot different skin tones – within the same shot. many of times i see pictures of me and FH or me and other friends where i look either darker than i am or they look uber pasty.

i wanted pictures that were true to life.

@KLP – that might be why black brides gush over your photos but ultimately dont contact you – while your pictures could be museum worthy, they need to know that you can shoot all tones. have you thought of having friends help you out by doing impromptu shoots just to have them to show brides that you have that range? it definately helped when i was choosing!

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