(Closed) Does religious conversation bother you if you’re not religious?

posted 9 years ago in Secular
  • poll: Does religious conversation bother you if you're not religious?
    I'm religious myself so it doesn't bother me at all : (37 votes)
    12 %
    I'm not religious but it doesn't bother me : (29 votes)
    10 %
    It's a little annoying/preachy but I can overlook it : (133 votes)
    44 %
    It bothers me : (77 votes)
    26 %
    I'm religious and it bothers me : (24 votes)
    8 %
  • Post # 100
    Member
    4369 posts
    Honey bee

    @MissCherryLemonade: Wow… hmm… I can only say there are tons of “pointless” posts on WB. Probably thousands by now, and people disagree on most of them. Not sure why this one inflames you so much?

    KatyElle’s response to you didn’t seem snarky to me, at all. If you don’t like a thread, why would you want to participate in it?

    Post # 101
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    25 posts
    Newbee
    • Wedding: August 2011

    @SoupyCat: It didn’t “enflame” me until she responded so snarky. It may not seem snarky to you considering your probably good friends with her. i thought what she said was snarky and thats all that matters. I don’t need anyones permission to think something is snarky. How exactly is “not a hard concept is it?” not snarky?

    I was merely stating my opinion that threads like this get heated. Her “husband” got on and had a rant and rave about something that someone said and apologized for,yet people STILL continued to bring it up over and over again. THATS why these kinds of topics are pointless in my opinion. But again, the “queen bees” of weddingbee like to make these types of threads and jump on anyone else’s back that opposes them. 

    Post # 102
    Member
    4369 posts
    Honey bee

    @MissCherryLemonade: Okay, first of all, I don’t *know* KatyElle, nor do I consider myself “good friends with her.” She started a topic that I was interested in, so I participated.  If you find her comment snarky, fine. But why can’t a thread get heated? I think it makes them more interesting to read. Also, topics get posted again and again here. People are joining and leaving all the time, so should they not be able to discuss something on this here discussion board just because something has been discussed previously by other people?

    Post # 103
    Member
    1309 posts
    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: December 2011

    Maybe I am biased because I am actually a practicing Catholic now, but even when I was a non-believer I didn’t really mind when people mentioned religion? I guess I was more of an agnostic than an atheist, but still. I mean I have a Hindu friend who when I am having a hard time always promises to pray for me. I didn’t think (and still don’t think) her gods actually exist but I never took offense. It’s a nice sentiment and I appreciate it. It’s not like she’s swearing at me or something.

    It would be different if she kept trying to hand me Hindu pamphlets or similar. But it’s just conversation. Her religion is a big part of her life (different feasts or festivals/events) and she does a lot with it. So it comes up. Not a big deal. There was one co-worker who had a big twitch about it but she was the one who had the closed mind and the issues – nobody else gave a crap. It was interesting stuff.

    Honestly it’s more annoying (but not offensive!!!!) when people say “I’ll be thinking good thoughts” or “I’m sending positive thoughts your way” which I guess is the awkward secular substitute for offering prayers? OMG, did I mention awkward? There is a snowball’s chance in hell that there is an elephant god who is controlling the universe and could fix my car trouble or stop the rain on my wedding day. Like a .00000000001% chance. There is exactly zero chance that other people’s positive thoughts will prevent the clouds from opening up. So I would rather have the Hindu prayers than the weird sympathetic telepathy. But it’s still not offensive! And I do my best not to laugh. Because again it’s well-meaning. That’s my standard: is the person trying to be nasty? When someone wishes me well according to their beliefs they are trying to spread joy in the world. I almost feel like it would be rude to be offended by their attempt to wish me well.

    Post # 104
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    25 posts
    Newbee
    • Wedding: August 2011

    There is a difference between a thread getting heated and people jumping on another bee’s back. I surely wouldn’t expect someone with opposing views to understand this however. I don’t see the point in making threads where bee’s attack other bee’s. We have enough of people doing that in the real world as it is. This website is supposed to be for wedding planning FUN! Making this site into a place where “heated” threads get started all the time just turns weddingbee into a drama filled workshop filled with angry ladies that furiously type behind their pixelated screens. It’s ridiculous. I stated my opinion and I have no interest in participating further with this discussion. Thank you.

    Post # 105
    Member
    4369 posts
    Honey bee

    @Magdalena: I agree with what you are saying. When someone says they will pray for me, I say thank you (my mom says this a lot). Where my hackles are raised is when someone says something akin to what was said to OP’s FI– that Jesus (or whomever) will open their hearts. To me, that is a judgmental statement.

    Post # 106
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    2825 posts
    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: April 2012

    @Magdalena: I always say “I’m sending good thoughts your way”… I would never think that was awkward.  How is sending good thoughts different than praying? Just because I’m not asking  a mythical god?  I don’t believe in god, but I believe in a higher power, and to me, sending out positive energy and thoughts is like praying to my higher power.  So try not to get offended by it when someone says that, just think of it as another word for praying. 🙂

    Post # 108
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    3521 posts
    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: December 2010

    It’s a little irritating (I hate the “You’re going to hell” crap), but I ignore it. Darling Husband, on the other hand, gets really pissed off if people start jabbering about religion (or worse, pushing it on us). It’s terrible when people try to “encourage” us to be religious–it’s like they can’t accept OUR choice (we’re agnostic, but get a little closer to atheism every day).

    Post # 108
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    2116 posts
    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: June 2011

    @PutABirdOnIt: “Christianity is full of violence and hypocrisy. It’s full of ignorance and judgement too, for that matter.” 

     

    What you just said there offended me… I’m hoping what you mean is that some Christians are violent and hypocritical. That some people are full of ignorance and judgmental… and the same goes for every religion (or people who would not consider themselves religious too, for that matter)

     

    I am a “Cafeteria-Catholic” but I consider myself very openminded. I think its wonderful that all people have their own beliefs. I love to read and learn about different religions. In fact, I think there is a real possibility that I could be wrong because, WHO KNOWS? So don’t tell me that I what I believe is violent, hypocritical, ignorant, and judgmental because it simply isn’t true. However, I do agree that there are Christians (and Muslims and Jews and JWs and Buddhists and Atheists and Agnostics and Wiccans and people who don’t give a crap) who are.

     

    ETA: I read a lot of your other comments and I’m not saying you’re ‘wrong’ (or anybody else is, for that matter).. I’m only speaking of this one comment

    Post # 109
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    7299 posts
    Busy Beekeeper
    • Wedding: September 2012

    I’m Buddhist and Mr. Tattoo is an evloutionist. I don’t mind religious conversation and neither does he. We have some pretty elitist atheist friends who are on their way out because they are basically just assholes with an agenda. I’m sick of them trying to disprove God all day on their Facebook, Twitter, Blogs, and in normal conversation all damn day. 

    Example: We were at Walmart and our friend sneezed. The cashier said “God bless you.” and he laughed and said “I don’t need your God’s blessing.” WTF!? Just say effing thank you.

    I have friends who say “God is good” all the time and it doesn’t bother me. I only get bothered with the people (on both sides) who just won’t stfu about their religious choice.  

    Post # 111
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    3521 posts
    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: December 2010

    @Miss Tattoo: I guess you could argue that saying “God is good” all the time is an example of people who “won’t stfu about their religious choice,” though I don’t consider that as heinous an offense as people who constantly try to convert others. Just some food for thought!

    The “bless you” thing is pretty outrageous, though–I mean, we still say that because like KatyElle said, it’s such a common figure of speech.

    Post # 112
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    284 posts
    Helper bee
    • Wedding: September 2012

    @Magdalena: the point of “sending good thoughts” is NOT to change the universe through some sort of divine or karmic intervention. That kind of flies in the face of non-belief, for most people. It’s like saying “I care about you, I’m here for you, and on the day that you’re going through (whatever it is) you’ll have a support system of people who love you behind you.” 

    I’m sorry if it’s annoying to you that there’s not a more concise way to say that, but I’m loosely religious and I don’t get annoyed at all when friends say that to me. Guess what – it does just as much good and real change in comforting me as people praying for me. 

    Out of curiosity, though, what would you rather they say? 

    Post # 113
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    10285 posts
    Sugar Beekeeper
    • Wedding: October 2011

    @Miss Tattoo: Your “friend” seems pretty douchy. I’m as atheist as they come but if someone sneezes, I always say “bless you”. Not because I really think they’re being blessed or whatever but because it’s the courteous thing to say. Atheists like him are the reason why other religions hate us. I don’t believe in God but I also don’t broadcast it. 

    If everyone simply just respected each other and their decisions, this wouldn’t be an issue. 

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