(Closed) Does this seem, um, “sleezy” to anyone else?

posted 10 years ago in Military
Post # 16
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: November 1999

It happens alllll the time.  Unfortunately this is not an isolated incident, and is well known that this happens in the military.  A lot of people marry for green cards & benefits.

Post # 17
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: October 2011

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@missfireslayer: I’m in a bitchy mood today too so I totally second reporting them!

Things like this make me so angry. I wonder how many other “families” out there have done this, since you mentioned that other people in their group were successful in scamming the government. I could never imagine marrying someone that I dont even know for the sole purpose of being a US citizen. Like another PP has said, getting a work visa to work in the states really isnt all that complicated. 

Post # 18
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Helper bee

Man, they are taking a huge risk!  Visa fraud can basically get you a permanent bar from entering the US at all.  

Post # 20
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

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@judithsr:   thanks!!!   🙂   We’ve already had success with getting my Australian visa and we’ve been told that as one government has accepted us as a genuine couple, it shouldn’t be too difficult the other way.  Thanks for your best wishes though! 

Post # 21
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Blushing bee

ummm i know TONS of filitary people that have gotten married for the benefits/to get off base/pay increase/lesser their chances of being shipped overseas, etc…

it totally seems like they are trying to take advantage of the system…

Post # 22
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: April 2011

Unfortunately I have known 3 people that have married someone from another  country just for them to get their green card. They were not military, it was just for the green card. But still, it did not seem that hard for them at all! They were all “acquaintances” I worked with at a pizza place when I was in high school & college. Ya they had to “prove” that they were a couple but that seemed easy for them because they were friends so there were pictures and phone records of things. And 2 of the “couples” each moved in together into an apartment, easy enough. I think one couple even got reported and there was an investigation but they knew everything about each other so nothing ever happened. And in 2 of the cases it was an American woman marrying foreign man, and they got paid quite a bit of money for it. And just as an FYI no, I do not agree with it. Just sharing what I have known to happen, it’s sad how easy it is.

Post # 23
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Blushing bee

@judithsr: wait her husband is NOT here legally? Do you mean he is not in the US because he can’t be here legally, or he is here illegally? Because him being here illegally would annoy me just as much as someone getting a fake marriage for a green card.

Post # 25
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Blushing bee

@judithsr: no this friend: “especially because I have a friend whose husband isn’t here legally and hasn’t been able to get his green card, despite the fact that they’re married for love, AND have a child”

Post # 27
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2020 - Oakland Manor

uh yes. As part of a couple that has had to really prove we are not committing immigration/marriage fraud.. that really irks me. I hope she enjoys paying thousands of dollars and collecting all the evidence of their “relationship”. Uhg. 

Post # 28
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Bumble Beekeeper

Ugh. Thats so shady.

I’m with the ladies that said to report them. That crap pisses me off, as both an American and a military wife.

Post # 29
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Bumble bee

I’m going to be the odd woman out. It doesn’t bother me at all. I think if two married adults stand up and decide to enter a married state mutually, it’s fine. I think about all the other reasons people get married and I just don’t think this is so terrible. People used to have arranged marriages where certainly there was no love bringing them together. People marry strangers on drunken trips to Vegas. And people get married and get divorced six months later. If this couple gets married and stays married for 20 years, does that make their marriage less valid than a “love match” that only lasted for year? I dunno. I know several couples who got married primarily for the tax benefits. I don’t think the government has any place investigating relationships….or determining what marriages are ‘real’ you know? But that’s just me!

Post # 30
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Helper bee

I do want to say, though, that getting a visa to work in the US is actually *very* complicated.  For many people, it’s pretty much impossible.  Unless you do seasonal agricultural labor, you need to 1) have a college degree, 2) get a job offer from an employer who is willing to sponsor you to work in a qualified (skilled labor) job, and 3) pray that you get selected in the yearly lottery for H1-B visas.  There are a couple of other exceptions (special categories for people with graduate degrees from US universities, “exceptionally skilled workers” which basically means celebrities/Nobel prize winners/CEOs, etc).  But the average non-citizen is pretty much out of luck if they want to move to the US and get a job.

Of course, as a country, we have every right to run our visa system this way.  And I am no fan at all of immigration fraud. I’ve also gone through the long, arduous process of getting a spousal visa for my husband, and it pisses me off that people game the system. Fraud makes the process worse for legitimate applicants, who have to deal with really intense screening.  But it’s actually very hard to get a work visa in the US through legitimate means (other than getting very very lucky!)

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