(Closed) Donald Trump's big announcement

posted 8 years ago in Legal
Post # 152
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Bumble bee

Oh it’s all such crap. And SO racist. Why does a president, who submitted his damn birth certificate, require extra screening? Why does my very Italian-looking father (born in the midwest with a very American name) require extra screening at the airport? “Cause they’re both a little more brown than the average American and that makes all sorts of people uncomfortable. Trump sucks, and he doesn’t handle losing well.

Also, I think it’s complete BS that he ‘wasn’t vetted’ or that they didn’t look closely enough into his background to assure that he was born in the US and a full citizen. When DH got a passport, we had to jump through SO many hoops. He didn’t have a driver’s license at the time, just a state id. Oh man. He needed his birth certificate, two forms of photo ID, a citizen with a passport to vouch for him who knew him for at least two years, a list of references and that still wasn’t enough. His mom had to fax two images of his high school yearbook pages to further confirm that his name went with his face and that a third party had listed him as such…and that it all matched the person who was attempting to get a passport. So no, I’m sorry. There’s no way they didn’t ‘vett’ him when my poor DH went through all of that just for a passport.

He has a birth certificate. He has a passport. It would be impossible to get one without US citizenship. No matter what ‘facts’ one may find on the super-truthful interwebs, there are such things as actual facts.

Mitt is actually the son of a man born in Mexico. Funny this never comes up in discussion of his background.

 

Post # 153
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2019 - City, State

What I can’t believe is that someone actually wrote on there that Obama won’t release the records, causing some charity to suffer.

WTF? If Trump wants to give the money, he should give the money. It’s not gonna be obama’s “fault that some charity suffers.” What a dumbass. That’s extortion, that’s blackmail, that’s bullying, and I would not want the prez to give into it. 

Post # 154
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2019 - City, State

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@Nessa2012:  This man is use to getting his way. I can’t believe the media buys into his bullshit….the president should ask him if his hair is real or is it a  toupee! Ask if his young wife is with him because shes madly in love with a man that  looks like her grandpa or for his $$$$….



We all know the answer to this question. 

Post # 155
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2019 - City, State

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@SquidWeds:  No one cares that Romney’s mom admitted the family was on government assistence, and was in fact part of the 47%.

No one cares that Romney sat up there and said that if he were mexican, he’d have a better shot at this office.

 

I mean asshole of assholes, to top it off, he’s after Big Bird. Screw Romney.

Post # 156
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Buzzing bee

Of course he did. I mean, people had stopped paying attention to him for, like, days. He had to do something. 

Post # 157
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: March 2012

And Gloria Aldridge’s big announcement was so freakin earthshattering .. no one cares about either one of them

Post # 158
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: March 2012

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@artichokey:  I don’t get how asking for his college records makes this racist? 

Post # 159
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: September 2012

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@HisIrishPrincess:  It is more of the racist birther crap – he is trying to say that the records will show he was an international student, and thus not born here.  Which is flawed logic in and of itself. 

Post # 160
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2018

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@HisIrishPrincess:  the thing that is differnet about him is his race. Have you ever heard of this for any other candidate? This is my 4th election and this is a first. You are never going to agree- why continue the debate. Racist is racist no matter whether people are saying slurs or insinuating things. 

Post # 161
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: February 2012

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@stardustintheeyes:  I understand what you’re saying, I guess I’m just a little confused.

My family is from America, but my grandfather is from Europe, which is where my family is originally from. Unless your family was brought over on the Mayflower then you are from somewhere else originally. If people asked where my family was from originally I wouldn’t hesitate to tell them where exactly in Europe. I’m sorry, but I just don’t see how that’s racist.

I work at a school that is predominantly South American and some of the kids’ grandparents are from there, some of them their parents, and some of them are from there themselves. Those kids are all American, but none get so angry or offended if someone would ask them where their family is from. They are proud to say the country and proud of that heritage, as well as their American heritage, and yes, they all have different colored skin.

I have gone to a nail salon now for over 10 years that is a family run business. The mother in the family is from Vietnam and the daughters were born in America, but obviously have Vietnamese heritage. If someone asked them where they are from, they would tell that person America, but I can almost bet they would also say that their family is of Vietnamese origin, and they wouldn’t be offended by that becuase that it is their background. 

White people are from other countries, black people are from other countries, etc. I don’t get what the big deal is to question someone’s nationatlity or heritage if it comes from a place of genuine curiosity and is done appropriately and decently.

Post # 162
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2018

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@star_dust:  you’re kidding yourself if you think this is being done respectfully or politely. 

Post # 163
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: June 2013

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@star_dust:  Because usually only those who don’t look American are questioned.  And that is wrong.  

 

Also…”Unless your family was brought over on the Mayflower then you are from somewhere else originally.”  Well, since the Mayflower came from Holland, then no, people on the Mayflower were not from America originally.  Those people are called Native Americans.  That particular group is the only native to this country.  Everyone else’s ancestors either came here willingly or were forced to come here.  

Post # 164
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: February 2012

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@mamadingdong:  I never said anything about Donald Trump’s video. Go back and re-read and let me know where I mentioned it.

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@peachacid:  So who cares if they don’t “look” American? So the American family of Vietnamese descent look Vietnamese, but they wouldn’t hesitate to say they are American with the Vietnamese background. So what if someone looks Polish, Russian, German, Mexican, etc. for someone to ask and learn more about their heritage and culture? Someone from German descent is probably white but can still be asked about their heritage or descent, just like someone from Africa with darker skin. 

No one is “originally” from America unless you are a Native American. You are correct. What I was saying is that unless you can trace your origins directly from the Mayflower with the people who actually built and established the country we now call the United States, then you are of course going to have a heritage or history elsewhere. Even those who have ancestors on the Mayflower have a heritage elsewhere, but it spans back a lot longer than most people’s. 

Post # 165
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2018

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@star_dust:  I’m not sure what you’re referring to- I never said you did. My last comment was in reference to your statement:

White people are from other countries, black people are from other countries, etc. I don’t get what the big deal is to question someone’s nationatlity or heritage if it comes from a place of genuine curiosity and is done appropriately and decently.

 
 

Post # 166
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: June 2013

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@star_dust:  You are correct that people are from different parts of the world.  However, white people will NOT be questioned in the way people who are not white will be and are.  There is a post in this thread about this; the girl is American but is constantly asked where she’s from…no where she’s REALLY from.  Part of white privilege is that people don’t question whether you’re American.

 

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