(Closed) DWI’s… What do you think the appropriate punishment should be?

posted 6 years ago in Legal
Post # 3
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: May 2012

I think it’s fairly simple- after the first offense, take away their DL for 6 months.  After that, if it happens again, no driving. Ever.  If you can’t drive responsibly, that’s ok- just don’t drive.  That’s why we don’t let 13 year olds drive.  

At one point, I didn’t spend responsibly, so the creditors wouldn’t give me any credit.  So I stopped spending.  

it’s a nonviolent (not purposefully anyway) offense, and I feel pretty strongly about nonviolent offenders being housed, clothed and fed in our jail system.  

 

Post # 4
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: January 1993

Repeat offenders make me sick. There was one up here about a year and a half ago that killed 3 colleged kids on their way home from a basketball game. Pulled off the side of the interstate to change a flat and he plowed into them going about 90mph.

My club did a benefit every year for a girl killed by a drunk driver while she was acting as Dirty Delete for her friends over Christmas break.

One offense? Shitton fine and a couple months of no license….but I would put this on a scale of ‘drunkeness’. I’d be a lot harder on Mr. 3x legal limit than the guy who just barely blows over.

Repeat offenders? Huge freaking fine and possible jail time.There is no excuse for it…..I would even argue that the repeat offenders could be charged with attempted manslaughter/murder. I’m living in WI now….and sometimes they are just so lax about it. How the hell does someone with 5 OWI/DUIs not get jail time and still have their frickin license?!

 

Post # 5
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: October 2011

Yikes! Idk… I won’t drive if I’ve had more than 2, but that scares me that I could be over the limit and feel perfectly fine.

Cops are such jerks about it though! Two weekends ago I was pulled over for supposed drunk driving. I was stone cold sober! He made me feel like a criminal. I had to say the alphabet backwards (umm not easy even sober) and I had to walk the line. I was like “just breathalizer me already!! I’m sober!”.

I feel like the law already comes down hard on DUI’s. I know many people who’ve had their entire lives ruined by it and can’t even hold regular jobs anymore.

Post # 6
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: August 2011

Repeat offenders are a real problem. A DUI is a big deal for a first offense IMO. I don’t think it’s joke or a slap on the wrist. But I think multiple offenses should be felonies with increasing jail time.

Post # 7
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: December 1999

My view is a little different then most, I have an older sibling that has been convicted of 4 DIU’s. Almost 2 years ago was her last and shee spent a few months in jail with release from work and then was on house arrest. She has a license to drive to work now and will have the breathalizer machine in her car ifor the rest of her life I believe.

I personally think she should never be able to drive again. Thank god she hasn’t killed someone else, she has been close enough to killing herself and has damaged so many vehicles. As a PP said in WI were really don’t have much punishment compared to other states and I would be all for tougher laws.

Post # 8
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: January 2011

What’s the difference between DUI and DWI?  Here I think the legal term is just impaired driving.  I think some of the new proposals are too strict.  For someone who is truely drunk and driving, I think the first issue should be to see if they have a drinking problem and that should be addressed.  I think for a one time thing, tempory loss of their licence and hefty fine are sufficient.  More needs to be done to actually catch drunk drivers though.  I used to do a fair bit of clubbing and many times was the Dirty Delete or had a Dirty Delete.  I’ve been through a check stop twice.  Once as the driver, once as a passenger.  Never been through one on NYE and only went through one once for an annual university celebration even though I attended 6 times and you weren’t supposed to be able to drive off campus without going through a checkstop.

For someone who is a repeat offender, then I think jail time should be mandatory, as well as removing their licence, along with treatment.  If they are able to eventually get their licence back, I’m all for the interlock system.

Post # 9
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2012

Jail.m  It’s attemted murder, IMO.  If they have an accident, and kill someone, it’s vehicular manslaughter.  If they die, it should be deemed a suicide.  They make a choice, reap the consequence.

I LOATHE people who drive drunk, and have ditched a lot of friends over the years because of their choices to do so.  I have zero pity or sympathy for drunk drivers.

Post # 10
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: January 1993

@ieatunicorns:  I didn’t realize they actually did the breathalyzer in the car thing. In that case, I would do that for repeat offenders and keep them out of jail, as a PP said….they are nonviolent and it just sucks our tax money. Better to have them pay big fines and be pretty severely limited on driving.

My worry would be they get access to a different car.

Post # 13
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: August 2012

Just because you restrict someone’s license or lock them up doesn’t mean they are going to learn their lesson.  Drunk drivers don’t care if they drive over the legel limit, so I’m sure they don’t care if they drive with a suspended lesson.   I would venture to guess that alot of these repeat offenders have alcohol problems.  I just don’t know what the correct course of action should be.

 

Post # 14
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: May 2012

I have a friend with a breathalyzer that activates a video camera.  Kind of hard to trick that.  Or it could use a fingerprint scanner.

As far as access to another car, it could happen, but it’s unlikely.  I wouldn’t let a drunk friend with a DUI use my car, I would hope the odds are pretty slim that anyone else would. 

Post # 15
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

@bells219:  Yeah, I wouldn’t let a drunk friend use my car either, but I know when I lived at home, it would’ve been easy to grab my parent’s keys and take one of their cars. Of course, that’s only a risk if you’re drinking at home and then driving.

 

I like the breathalyzer for the cars, but I also agree that repeat offenders deserve severe repercussions – every single time they drink and drive, they risk killing someone.  I’m not sure what the appropriate punishment is, for sure, but I have no objection to something like jail, house arrest, etc.

Post # 16
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Sugar bee

I think jail time is appropriate, along with fines and license suspension.

Less than a year after graduation, 3 boys from my high school were in a wreck. All 3 were intoxicated and high – the driver happened to live, the other two died. But any one of them could’ve been driving with the same outcome, which all 3 sets of parents had to painfully acknowledge. Driver went to jail for 3 years and I believe still has a suspended license after getting out. But he had to kill his best friends to get that kind of wake up call – I know all 3 of them probably drove high/drunk multiple times before the accident, and they never cared.

I just don’t understand why anyone would get behind the wheel impaired. Driving is dangerous as fuck under great conditions with a super careful, super alert driver. We forget how dangerous it is because we do it all the time, but it’s one of the riskiest acts humans perform and should be treated as such.

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