Post # 1
I’m in love with this ring which is emerald cut with 1.04 carat diamond which is online. I always wanted atleast 1 carat. But ive been searching egl report and reading it isnt that good especially emerald cut. But this is right in the budget.
CUT: VERY GOOD
Does anyone have a picture with same size diamond with clarity of S12?
Post # 3
@venpet: If it is SI2, you will probably be able to see the clarity flaws with the naked eye upon close inspection. I would find one with a lower color rating and a higher clarity rating (maybe VS2 and H)
Also if it is “very good” thats still great for a fancy cut because they often don’t give “ideal” ratings for fancy shapes.
Post # 4
With an EGL certification, you will get the carat and specs that you want, but keep in mind if it was graded by GIA or AGS, that diamond would be of lower quality. Since EGL has a lower standard of grading that GIA or AGS, an SI2 might have even more inclusions that you’re expecting.
Post # 5
EGL is not as strict with grading as GIA. The stats probably wouldn’t grade the same as a GIA diamond. Pricescope has some great resources about this, including this thread:
Post # 6
Edit: Oops, I realize mine is GIA. Not EGL.
Post # 7
I would take a look at jamesallen.com — you can get an idea of what different diamonds of different clarities look like.
Clarity is really important with emerald cuts because of the way they’re cut — inclusions are usually pretty visible. SI2 can be pretty risky, especially if you aren’t seeing pictures of the stone or seeing the stone in person before purchase.
The other thing to consider is that this diamond was graded through EGL — they are not nearly as reliable as other grading labs such as GIA and AGS. An SI2 graded stone from EGL is likely to be a GIA-graded I1 or I2 — probably not something that you want.
What I’ve found is that there aren’t “great deals” on diamonds. You get what you pay for. If this diamond has a low price point compared to similar size stones, there’s probably a reason.
Post # 8
If you want an emerald cut, ask them for a scan of the EGL cert so you can post it. If the step cut has mostly WHITE feathers, clouds, or twining whisps the si2 is okay, but if it has crystals and feathers that are BLACK you will see directly into the stone all the issues. If you want an EGL stone, make sure its EGL LA or EGL NY or EGL USA
EGL Israel and EGL International are total bulls***only used for insurance purposes to identify clarity enhancement or to get over on people with discounts for incorrect classification.
EGL Stones are usually one color and one clarity grade off. I suggest going with a rectangular radiant cut rather than emerald cut if you need something included but will not show. the birlliant cut bottom of the radiant descuises its inclusions much better than step cuts.
Post # 9
I’ve heard that EGL is an average of two grades off. There was a thread over on PriceScope where a diamond was FIVE color grades off from the EGL report. That’s just insane.
Post # 10
I would not get this stone ESPECIALLY with an emerald cut…I wouldn’t go below VS2 with an emerald cut stone since it is a step cut and flaws are more visible…and never EGL. GIA or AGS only.
Post # 11
I’ve seen SI1’s that look fine, as long as the inclusions are really hard to see and depending on what they are VS2 isn’t necessary, but EGL USA isn’t a bad laboratory, its all in what you really look at when you see the diamond. You can’t base it on the internet without microscopic photos of the diamond and a copy of the EGL cert. if you have those things post it and we can try and help you from there.
Post # 12
@cmbr: Thats probably EGL Israel/International. TelAviv has some pretty messed up gemologists who grade them way off so that diamond dealers can sell them at big discounts but make it seem like a deal when its really normal pricing for crappier stones. As I said before, get some pics up so we can try and help, otherwise don’t trust the internet.
Post # 13
I think a lot of times EGL stones get a bad rap and isn’t always wrong as people tend to say. My stone is an EGL and I had it looked at separately by a gemologist here and I was told the grading was spot on. But honestly, I didn’t care if my stone was certified at all.
That being said, with your stone, I’d be more concerned about it being eye clean than anything since it’s a step cut and harder to hide the flaws.
Best of luck, I hope you find what you’re looking for!
Post # 14
I’d personally only buy an EGL stone if I could see it in person. Do they have a good return policy? If so, buy it and see if you like it – take it and get it appraised for yourself.