Post # 1
My fiance and I are in the process of picking out my engagement ring in NYC. The jewlers we visit tell me I need to sacrifice something- the color , cut , or size of the stone. Some jewelers say the excellent cut is most importat and others say the most important thing is the cut. Please let me know your thoughts.
Post # 3
Color is more important the cut – it doesn’t matter if it’s cut too deep or too shallow if it’s a round diamond. Worry about color and clarity first and foremost. (I’m not sure about other shapes as I have round…)
my old room mate and good friend is a custome ring designer and he made mine – my FH got to work very closely in the process and learned all there is to know (well in a 3 month crash course…lol). One thing my FH was happy about was that my friend told him, an inclusion in a ring can make no difference sometimes depending on where it is – for instance my diamond was hand picked, it has inchlusions, a few but you’d never know because of how they sit in the diamond itself.
You’re going to notice the color and clarity (sparkle) of your ring most. I doubt anyone would ever look at it and say "My, the cut of that ring was terrible" unless they are professionally trained. I think that as long as you look at it and go WOW! and butterflies flutter in your tummy, the world stops and brids sing….it’s the right ring 🙂
I’m sure no matter what you will find the perfect ring!!!
Post # 4
I’ve actually read that cut is really important – it will determine how well the ring reflects light and how it sparkles. Color through about G or H won’t make a noticeable difference unless you put your ring directly next to someone else’s ring. Miss Peony did some posts a while back about diamonds – if you search for those, they should help quite a bit.
Post # 5
Okay I sold jewelry at Service Merchandise back in the day and also at Friedmans… so I’ve spent tons of time looking and gawking at rings.. so this is the order importance IMO… from most important to least.
1. Clarity- if you have a ring with less than VS2 clarity, there will be inclusions- or imperfections- which are visible to the naked eye. You should look for a stone with the white "crack like" blemishes versus the black carbon spots. Oftentimes the white inclusions can be hidden under prongs (in my case) or are difficult to see from the top of the stone. Cause really who is looking at your stone from the side and up close, etc? Only people who really know diamonds.
2. Color- nothing less than an H-I is acceptable for an engagement ring. Colorless rings are nice, but honestly not many people get a flawless D color ring. We’re not all millionaires.
3. Cut- Cut is important because the better the cut, the more brilliant the sparkle. A perfect cut diamond is a laser cut diamond. But diamond purists will say that a hand cut diamond is truly only the best (but costs TONS more).
4. Carat/Size- If you HAVE to sacrifice something. Sacrifice size. When sitting next together, there isn’t much of a size difference between a 3/4 ct stone and a 1ct stone. Remember it is quality- not quantity.
Tips for getting a decent price. Check out a smaller jeweler. Going to a big name place, you are paying for the name- Tiffany’s versus somewhere else.
My FH bought my e-ring from friedmans during a sale and got a great price (after I left to go to grad school). Granted we had the stone re-set into something more me-see below- because their stones come in a very basic and slim band. But this route was cheaper than ordering it exactly as I wanted from a higher end jeweler. Basically we bought the ring in the basic setting I wore it for a while, then a few months later, I bought the semimount (setting) that I had been wanting ever since we’d been talking about getting married and I got exactly what I wanted and then some.FYI Friedmans has a decent selection of colorless rings for less than 4-5k for the 1ct and the clarity is not too bad either.
Little nerd tidbit of information: Less than 1 in a million CUT diamonds are 1ct or more in size (.95-1.07). LESS THAN 1 IN A MILLION. Less than 1 in a MILLION stones mined are of quality to make as large as 1 ct. Think of the stats of that. Makes you take things into perspective.
Pics of my e-ring here (these are bad pics but what I have) http://bp2.blogger.com/_xTLZc6RqPhg/R3r-vYSlEbI/AAAAAAAAAGw/4fJsz-4ch58/s320/IMG_09311.JPG
Good luck on your search for your perfect ring and congrats!!!
Post # 6
Congrats on the engagement! 🙂 I just wanted to add 2 things to all the stuff people said before.
The metal of your ring makes a difference with respect to the diamond color! If you get a white gold ring, the lower color grades (H,I,J) will look icky next to it b/c the white gold is so shiny. If you get platinum you won’t notice the color as much, but the metal is more expensive.
Also – some slight inclusions are ok! None of my friends stuck their faces right next to my ring and noticed the slight inclusion in the ring, they just noticed the sparkle (cut+color!). 🙂 The important thing is to see the diamond in person then you know exactly how bad the inclusions are.
Post # 7
I agree with EVERYTHING that babagrlshell said… that was pretty much the same exact thing that our jeweler said
Post # 8
Cut is the most important. If it is not cut well it will directly affect the fire and brilliance of your ring. It doesn’t mean much to have a D FL diamond if it has a dodgy cut. You won’t see it for what it should be. HTH!
Post # 9
Thank you all so much for the feedback. Do you think there is a difference between GOOD, VERY GOOD, EXCELLENT GIA RATINGS?
Post # 10
ek, how do I find Miss Peony’s old postings?
Post # 11
of course there is a difference; EX is the best and it goes down from there.
check out the gia website at http://www.gia.edu . . .they have links there you may find helpful for selecting your diamond. also check out bluenile.com’s education tab. Hope This Helps and congratulations!
Post # 12
I’m on the same page as JCM9608-Cut I think is the *most* important. I have a GIA Excellent, it’s 3/4 carat but shines and shimmers so much more than my friend’s 1.5 carat ring of better color and clarity. A poor cut will give only a dull sparkle, and that’s no fun have a diamond that won’t catch and reflect all the light! I get so many compliments on how beautiful the sparkle on my ring is!
Color is definately second, but you can get away more with a lower (H,I) near colorless with a better cut because the sparkle masks any slight tint. Clarity, as long as it’s SI or above, no one sees it. Really, who grabs a ring on their finger and uses a 10x magnification daily to view it? If you get a SI1 or greater it’s eye clean. Congrats on the engagement!!!
Post # 13
I just received my 1/2 ct with side stones and its gorgeous! the color is H, clarity I1. It sparkles like mad!
Happy hunting, this is a thrilling time!
Post # 14
Personally, I think that clarity is most important, then cut, then color. If you are close to the colorless range, it will look white and beautiful and if the cut is very good, rather than ideal or excellent, it will still sparkle. If your cut is not ideal and your color is not colorless, but there are no inclusions to get in the way of the light, it will be a sparkly diamond. If you look at your ring, though, and see visible inclusions for the rest of your life, you are probably going to wish that you had put more emphasis on clarity. I am an eagle eye though and pick up easily on inclusions. Either way, congratulations and whatever ring you pick, I’m sure you will love it! Also, local mom & pop jeweler can usually order in a diamond to your exact specifications and can be bargained down on the price more than chain jewelers.
Post # 15
Search for Miss Peony’s posts, but in my opinion as long as we’re not talking a foggy spotted diamond- I vote for cut! I can’t complain about any of the 5 Cs in my ring, but the cut is dead on and that makes it really sparkly!
If you want it, send me a message through this site I’ll give you the name of our jeweler in NYC. He beat the prices of everyone else and I love my ring!
Post # 16
I also agree that clarity is most important. I think everything babagrlshell said was right on.