(Closed) Epidural Comments – "You won't be able to do it!"

posted 6 years ago in Pregnancy
Post # 76
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2014

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kes18:  Yes, I did say that narcotics can cross the placenta to the baby as one of the minuses in my post.  I’m hoping to not take anything, but I never say never.

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Lindsey19:  I think what kes18 is saying is that laughing gas (nitrous oxide) is not widely available as an option in the US.  Even if some hospitals have been offering it within the last 6 months, it can take a LONG time for something to be offered standard practice nationwide.

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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: December 2014

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Daizy914:  I have no kids yet… So I have no idea what I would do… At least if I decide to go all natural I can think of my grandma and mom.  My grandma has 5 natural births and my mom had 4 out 5 natural births.  She had a c-section with my brother.  My sister had my niece all natural but not by choice… LOL my niece just didn’t want to wait and before she knew it her labor was too advance.  Good luck.  Hope labor goes smoothly for you!

Post # 78
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: March 2013

I’m a bit late but allow me to explain my story.

my first child was seven years ago. A 8lb 13.9 oz baby. I had the epidural but it only worked for half my body so I received a second dose. I felt nothing for 12 hours after and the pushing lasted 5 hours because I couldn’t feel anything.

my second child 8lb4oz is nearly 1 now. I wanted all natural but everyone talked me out of it. I still wanted to but when the pain increased to draw a couple tears (I was given pitocin as well) everyone convinced me to get the epidural.

it lasted 30 minutes. The pain came back and my water hadn’t even broke. I got a second dose. It did nothing. The water broke and my contractions were long hard and close together. They had me squeezing the chair and groaning a lot with a few tears. Within 20 minutes it was time to push. I felt everything. Pushing made things better. It took three pushed and less than 5 minutes and she was here. The pain was gone and I was a bit sore but all the horrible pains quickly faded and in hind sight the pain honestly wasn’t that bad.

I really regretted the epidurals after since they did nothing to help. The pitocin I regret the most because my baby was born not breathing, gray, and the chord double wrapped around her neck and knotted. The doctor said it was unusually bad case. My baby, thank God, was safe and healthy and happy once they freed up the chord but she was grayish for about 38 hours after she was born.

the induction and the epidural were not necessary. In my first the epi was. It was a hard labor. But I gave up too easily for my second.

 

point of this: Trust yourself to know what is right. Dont do anything you dont feel comfortable doing. And don’t get induced unless you have to.

Post # 79
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Busy bee

My mom had my sister and I naturally, and then with my brother she decided to get an epidural. Well, something went wrong and it only numbed one side of her body, which was worse than no numbing. So they gave her more to try and do the other side, and it numbed her up to her neck and sent her into respiratory distress, so they started pumping even more drugs into her to try and keep her breathing. About this time they told her it was time to push!

 

When it was time for the next baby she stayed far, far away from the epidurals! 

Post # 80
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: October 2013

I really feel like the typical US birth scenario goes like this all-too-often: Unecessary induction to start off with, which leads to intense pain, which leads to epidural, which leads to numbness and inability to push and finally a C-section. Ultimately all that matters is the end game – a healthy baby. But there’s no way to ensure a “pain-free” birth. You can have less pain during birth with an epidural, but your chances of surgery or tearing increases, which will make recovery longer and more painful.

 

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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: October 2011

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bridget.beta:  Plenty of women that have epidurals also have fast labors with a quick second stage. 

FWIW, I had a completely natural birth and I still had to push for 3.5 hours. An unmedicated birth is not necessarily quicker.

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Honey bee
  • Wedding: October 2011

You can totally do this. Our bodies were made for it.

I had a natural birth with my first baby and I will attempt it again later this month for baby #2.

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Busy bee

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Daizy914:  my mom had 3 children with no epidural. I dont want one as well. Im not pregnant or anything, but I have known for a while that I would not want one. But I love the idea of it being as natural as possible, it just seems healthier for baby and mother. There are a lot natural ways to help with the pain and get it to move along. Also I have heard from people and research that an epidural can extend the birth process. My mom had us very quickly and I hear people that get epidurals that it can take up to 24hrs because you are not pushing as hard as you would if you werent numb.

I understand and think it is awesome!

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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2013

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Mrslovebug:  My epidural worked for the most part but one side it worked less than the other for some reason.  So I could feel all my contractions and they did get uncomfortable towards the end.  Thankfully I wasn’t in a lot of pain though, so it worked well enough.  I am actually happy mine was like that because I could feel everything and I knew when to push on my own.  I almost got the best of both sides I think.  I was also induced and I hated being induced even though it worked out fine in the end. 

I would agree to avoid being induced if you want a drug-free birth.  That pitocin is no joke!!  Plus they will require you to be constantly monitored and if they don’t like something they will force you to lie in bed (that was like torture lol).  I was induced because I was after 41w but I wish I would have held out another 3 days or so just to see if it would have happened on my own.

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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: January 2010

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Daizy914:  My mom had twins with no epi for the same reason as you said. She told the Dr “I’d rather cough these kids up than get a needle in my back.” My brother was breech and she had to get an episiomity. Even afterwards, she still was glad she didn’t have to get a needle in her back.

Tell the haters to shut it!

FWIW, I got an epidural when I was 1.5 cm and had a very quick, uncomplicated and painless labor/delivery. I wouldn’t have wanted it any other way either. Do what’s right for you.

Post # 87
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Busy bee

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Daizy914:  Hey daizy! I have 0 tolerance for pain, that’s why I got an epidural when I gave birth. I suffered from back pain before pregnancy, but the epidural did not make it worse. It’s like going to the dentist, they numb you, I was still able to move my legs, but I did not feel the contractions or anything, it was pretty great. I did spend the day throwing up though, from 1 p.m (time I got epidural) to 8 p.m. (time I started pushing baby out) but hey, I prefer vomiting ANY DAY than being in so much pain!

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Newbee
  • Wedding: November 2015

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MrsAKSkier:  

<br />Actually, you are medically incorrect and have clearly never researched the various opiod medicines used in an epidural, what the mechanism of action of an epidural is, what are the potential side effects of the various combinations because different anaestitists choose different combinations of meds and how they function to effect both the maternal and fetal body. I have because 1) I am a geek like that and 2) I have spina bifida occulta so if I ever needed an emergency C-Section – I wanted to prepared to discuss an appropriate option with my treatment team.

But, being the science geek that I am – I like to back my references up with fact. Here is a link to a reputable medical journal that is peer reviewed and vetted by the physician community – it is not something some random person said on the internet.<br />http://www.aafp.org/afp/2013/0601/p760.html

To quote, in case it cannot be accessed –

“Evidence indicates that epidural analgesia prolongs the second stage of labor and increases the frequency of instrumental deliveries.3 Oxytocin augmentation of labor with epidural analgesia might then improve outcomes. But, does evidence support this assumption?” In case you are wondering, no augementing with synthetic oxytocin (pitocin) does not decrease C-Section rates – unfortunately.

“Evidence indicates that epidural analgesia prolongs the second stage of labor and increases the frequency of instrumental deliveries.” That was the key statement in case you missed it. Instrumental deliveries means, long pushing stages because the baby isn’t moving – usually because the mom was improperly dosed and she can’t feel to push properly. Episostomies happen more frequently with instrument deliveries and injuries to babies. Neither of those are good – ohhhh and… it TAKES LONGER! But that is just a statistical average. Referring me to a case study of one does not imply a statistical “average”. That is flawed science.

Here’s the thing – I don’t care what a person does with their babies or their uterus. Someone wants an epidural. Fine. Get it by all means. I was just answering the OP’s question, stating my own bit of anecdotal evidence – oh, but I can actually back that up with STATS – unmedicated births ARE faster on average. To create an average, take the total number and divide by the whole then do the same thing with whatever you are comparing and then – results. Cool how that works.

Epidurals, no problem with them. They can be extremely helpful. I do have a problem with people being uninformed and stating incorrect information as fact. Cause, well it just isn’t helpful to anyone.

Birth is a big deal no matter how it is achieved. I do not invalidate the process based on a standard I have established for myself. I will however provide factual information when asked.

Post # 89
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: October 2011

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MrsUnikorn:  Thank you, that is quite informative. However, I never made any statistical claims about whether or not epidurals slow labor, and I never presented incorrect information as “fact.” I was merely stating my own experience giving birth without one- my second stage was prolonged despite not having an epidural. And I have heard many stories of quick labors WITH an epidural- it happens. I realize that anecdotal evidence is just that- anecdotal- and is inferior to large studies with averages calulated. I was just pointing out that no epidural does not mean a quick labor.

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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: October 2011

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MrsUnikorn:  also, I never referred my comment to you specifically, unless you have multiple accounts.

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