Ethical/moral dilemma….money related!

posted 2 years ago in The Lounge
Post # 31
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385 posts
Helper bee

Loupyloo :  the company should be reimbursed for the price of the ticket, but your Darling Husband gets to keep the “extra” money that they paid as a result of the inconvenience. 

Post # 32
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

Loupyloo :  I think he’s entitled to the money. Your Darling Husband was inconvenienced and uncomfortable. He also took the time & initiative to reach out to the airline. I do think that  if he had skipped work the next day to rest he should give the money back to his employer though. Keep it!

Post # 33
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Bee Keeper

It was not your money to begin with. That starts the dangerous trail of double dipping.

Your employer paid money for the tickets. They are due the money, you are not. Yes it was your husband that traveled, but it was his company that paid for him to travel.  If he had paid for the ticket, sure pocket the money, but he didn’t.

We have a new travel policy in place just for things like this.

Post # 34
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Honey bee

 Ugh I really think he should keep it. But I’m paranoid and Iwould tell my employer since they paid for the flight. They should probably be reimbursed but he should be able to keep the difference. Do they know that he had the flight from hell? 

  • This reply was modified 2 years, 4 months ago by  sweatergal007.
Post # 36
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Sugar bee

He didn’t pay anything for the ticket. The company paid for a business class ticket and received an economy class ticket. That said, I would relinquish the portion that was the difference between economy class and business class to the employer. The rest should go to your husband. He is the one who suffered. 

Post # 37
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Newbee

Keep the money!

Post # 38
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2016

I fully agree with catskillsinjune , and this approach is exactly how my employer would handle the situation. 

However, I work in professional services so would definitely disclose the refund to my employer to ensure that there are no legal circumstances that I may not be aware of (e.g. the airline is a client and the money may be misperceived as a conflict of interest/gift/bribe). 

For cntext, in my firm all travel points and travel perks belong to the traveller and not the firm. If your firm was inconvenienced (i.e. the delays happened on the way to the work trip and a meeting was missed or a sale lost due to the delay) then it is fair that they receive some or all of the refund (situation depending). 

On the flip side, if one of my staff came to me with your DH’s story I would thank them for reporting it and tell them to keep their money. 

Post # 39
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: June 2013

I am stunned at how many people are saying to keep the money. My company would absolutely consider this theft and you would likely be fired if they found out.

I’m glad he is discussing it with his manager. It would be great if they let him keep all of it but I would think they should at least let him keep the difference between the ticket price and the money from the airline.

Post # 40
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138 posts
Blushing bee
  • Wedding: April 2016

I am in legal and compliance with my company and would seriously consider firing anyone who kept the money.  But we have a policy, as do most companies.

Post # 41
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Blushing bee

Loupyloo :  OP, have you guys made a decision?

Post # 42
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: May 2013

A similar thing happened to me but more minor. I had a chat with my employer and they told me to keep it as it was compensation and it was me who had to suffer! 

Guilt free then! I hope he gets to keep it.

Post # 43
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627 posts
Busy bee

I would definitely tell the company and ask about the policy, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they let him keep it.

Post # 44
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2015

I would tell the company.  I wouldn’t just assume they’d let him keep it and then go, “oh they’ll just say keep the money anyway so no point in telling them.”

When I first started at my current job, I was finishing up working on a case that required me to take off a couple of hours during my first days to go down to the courthouse for some hearings.  When I got paid on the case, I asked the boss’ paralegal/office manager (it’s a small office) what I should do with the money.  I figured I got the case myself and did all the work, so I should be able to keep all of it, but I wanted to cover all my bases.

Even the office manager, who had been working for my boss for over a decade, said oh he’ll probably just tell you to keep it all.  Nope, I was told to calculate the total amount of time I spent working on the case and what percentage of that time was at the new job, and give him that percentage of the fees. Which if you think about it, is fair.

So yeah you shouldn’t just assume.

Post # 45
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Busy bee

Your husband could easily lose his job over deciding to keep the money. He should absolutely notify his employer lest put his job at risk. What’s “fair” is irrelevant.

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