Evevery woman in the world should watch this.

posted 2 years ago in No Kids
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Blushing bee

Thank you for sharing this! I loved it.

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Helper bee

Thank you!!!!

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Buzzing bee

This is a totally personal issue, and no one should be involved in making this decision but a woman and her SO. Not family, not government, no one.

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Busy bee

Thank you for sharing this! I have similar thoughts and stance with you (in freedom and rights for women to be childless and childbearing, either effect to the world, and personal freedom to choose either one), so it is comforting to know there is others that think the same way

 

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Busy bee

Not this woman *gag*

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Honey bee
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That was an interesting watch. Thanks for sharing. 

patchm :  Why the issue? What am I missing?

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Busy bee

Olivepepper :  

It’s not so much the video or the concept in general but how the op presented it. I agree with the idea that not everyone should have children. I agree that people shouldn’t be put down for not wanting children or pressured into having children.

 

Where I disagree:

“The earth is being destroyed by humans.”

Yes, we are having a negative impact on the Earth. By why does that = people are bad, make less people. And before someone says “no one said that people are bad” read a little further “polluting the planet.” Work on making a better Earth for us to live.

 

“Even if your reasoning is being deemed “selfish” by others. In fact, you are giving yourself and the world a huge service by not polluting the planet with more humans and trash.”

Again… humans are a pollutant? This goes against every fiber of my being that everyone’s life has innate value.

 

“You have every God-given right to procreate and decide what you want to do with your body and genetic material.”

Don’t talk about human life as a pollutant in one breath and then about “God-given right”s in the next. I mean, God-given right to LIFE, liberty, and pursuit of happiness anyone. Our right to life is a God-given right.

 

“Not your doctor, not your OBGYN, not your significant other, not your friends, not society, not social standards, not your parents, not peer pressure.”

Your SO has no say at all? They above everyone should be free to discuss and desire this.

“Your body, your uterus, your DNA. You deicide.”
Your body, your uterus, not just your DNA. The father has no rights when it comes to the life of HIS child – with HIS DNA too! Let the guy speak.

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Honey bee
  • Wedding: June 2010

patchm :  Agree with everything you said but the last part. Most Childfree women have negotiated that with their partner, if he changes his mind then that is a deal breaker I reckon! No woman should feel obliged to bear children because someone else desires it. His need to share his DNA does not override anything. (But he can choose to leave, of course, and find someone to have kids with. That is a given.)

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

 

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Busy bee

Olivepepper :  That’s what I meant – sorry if that wasn’t clear. I just mean that a SO sould be able to have a discussion about if they want kids. If it really comes down to it, they can go different ways. But he should at least be allowed to voice his opinion – in the form of discussion (not bullying).

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Busy bee

Olivepepper :  haha Thanks for listening / asking and not just jumping to conclusions about what I meant!

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Honey bee
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patchm :  but… humans ARE destroying the Earth. There are 7.5 BILLION humans on the planet, and a forecasted 11 billion by 2100!! Not having kids because you don’t want to contribute to overpopulation is a very valid reason. I don’t want kids now but if I ever do I know I will struggle with the ethics of bringing yet more people into the world. I would feel selfish putting my own desire for biological kids over the planet’s welfare. 

(Sorry if I’m missing your point)

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Busy bee

nonablu :  It’s okay. In regards to that part of my reply, my point is that while yes, people are polluting the plannet, people are not, themselves, pollutents. 

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Busy bee

patchm :  You are taking extra offense at the term “polluntant” like it’s the worst thing a person could be called, and I’m not sure why. I don’t understand why you don’t understand that humans can be pollutants but also be valuable as well. I understand if that’s your personal view, but just know it’s not a scientifically accurate point of view. Even if we were all super conscious of our damage to this planet, the sheer number of humans is using up resources too fast (a form of “pollution”) and that’s something that can’t be helped unless we simply stop having as many children.

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rosydelight :  It is a scientifically acurate point of view… you are acting in ignorance.

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