Post # 1
Boy it’s been a tough month…AF yesterday and then today we got DH’s semen results (we had it done early because he has a varicocele) and they are not good. He has half the normal count and half of those don’t swim. So, our OB suggested varicocele repair vs. going straight to IVF (OB seemed to think IVF was “where the money was at”…haha, literally since our insurance doesn’t cover it).
Has anyone had experience with this? Thoughts? I am leaning toward doing the varicocele repair regardless because we might want more than one child and it seems like a good idea regardless. It also seems that even with only a quarter of sperm functioning that’s still 4 million sperm so it seems like that should be more than enough? I guess it doesn’t work quite like that though?
Also, if anyone has happy stories of conceiving despite male factors or after varicocele repair please send them my way! I could use some happy stories!
At least now we have some answers about why we haven’t conceived yet and hopefully it is a solvable problem, which I know makes us lucky in the scheme of things.
Post # 3
I don’t have any experience but I wanted to bump this for you and maybe some other ladies will respond.
Wishing you the best of luck!!!
Post # 4
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@nyckitten: IVF (potentially with ICSI) will hopefully help, since they’ll screen for the BEST of his sperm, before fertilising your eggs. But yes, it’s a pricey option.
I don’t know much about the surgery, but it’s worth looking into! Good luck!
Post # 5
I too don’t know much about varicoceles. I personally think the surgery is a good idea, but would be devastated for you if you needed to do IVF on top of that. This is a tough one! They talk about it on these two threads…
Anyone’s SO have varicocele surgery?
The IVF Thread
Post # 6
We found out that we have MFI but since we are older we will go to IVF if IUI doesn’t work. I’ve already had 2 surgeries in the past year so we can’t wait another 3 months. My gf had to successful IVF cycles because of MFI. I believe there’s a fellow Bee on the IF Board that Darling Husband had surgery but I don’t recall if it was successful. You can also check out the Fertility Boards on inspire.com, I know there has been recent discussions about surgery vs. IVF.
For IUI, most RE’s want min of 5 mil. IVF on the other hand need less.
Post # 7
I don’t know anything about varicocele repair. I did 5 IUIs (couldn’t afford IVF) with my ex-H. He had what we were told was “borderline low sperm count.” It was only 4 million. So I guess that was probably too low from what PPs said. By The Way it didn’t work once.
Post # 8
@elchalten: Thanks for bumping for me. That’s sweet. 🙂
Thanks everyone for your input! It’s very helpful. @ChuckNorris: Thanks for finding those other threads! @squeak35: I had never heard of inspire.com before, so will check that out too.
We’re going to make Darling Husband an appointment with a urologist. I wonder whether we should repeat the test to make sure it’s correct…I’m in a bit of disbelief.
Post # 9
I’ve heard that taking certain supplements can help a man’s sperm, too. Something to look into.
If you do decide to go the IVF route, I can answer any questions you may have. We did IVF (not for male factor, but tubal problems) and it worked. ICSI is the best for helping with male factor, since they take the very best sperm and penetrate the egg with those particular good sperm.
Sorry about the news. 🙁 I know you must be devastated as I was when I got bad fertility news, too. Hang in there and good luck making a decision!! 🙂
Edit: Yes, I would definitely repeat the test. My husband’s numbers changed (by about 10-20%) over a few months. So it is definitely worth repeating just to be sure before you move forward.
Post # 10
As Jenn suggested, supplements may help. (I’m very pro-supplements!) If you decide to do the repair surgery, they may really help, but like I said before it’s such a risk! Supplements that have been thought to help sperm count are: Zinc&Folic acid combination, Royal Jelly, and Maca root.
Here’s another thread that talks about it.
An quote from an I read recently:
Researchers found that the men with fertility problems who took 5 mg of folic acid a day and 66 mg of zinc sulfate a day for 26 weeks had a 74% increase in total normal sperm count and a minor (4%) increase in abnormal sperm count. No significant increases were found among the healthy men’s sperm counts. The study author says that’s most likely due to the greater variability in sperm count in these men compared with the men with infertility.
I like this site, but I feel like it kind of overpromises, but here’s a boatload of supplements on this article. My husband and I both take Maca root.
Post # 11
@nyckitten: Inspire.com is a great board. Men also will reach out so I wouldn’t be surprised if there aren’t several threads. Because many members will denote threads as “Members Only”, you can not find threads via Google.