(Closed) Fat vs. Unhealthy

posted 8 years ago in Fitness
Post # 3
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: February 2011

I feel the same way you do.

BUT there is an effort to reclaim the word, so I do know a few people (all of them plus-sized) who use the word freely.

Post # 4
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: February 2014

I agree, but would like to add that “fat” (if we’re going to by society’s definition, meaning some extra pounds) does not necessarily mean one is unhealthy.

Post # 5
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Busy bee

Well… since you asked… I don’t really like either term… they aren’t pleasant descriptors…  It’s kind of like anorexic… yes there are people who this term fits… but I have a feeling that it isn’t their favorite way to be described!

Post # 6
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: June 2012

I agree that it is never appropriate to call someone fat. That’s just unnecessary. 

HOWEVER. Obesity is a huge problem and I disagree with the movement that says otherwise – can’t remember what the book is called, but the woman claims she’s a size 20 something and at her healthiest. Sorry, but you can’t be healthy and obese. Healthy and slightly overweight, sure. In shape and overweight or even slightly obese? Yes, in many cases, although not to your full potential. 

Health should be emphasized. It’s not good to encourage crash dieting or anorexia, but it’s not good to pretend that obesity is not a serious health risk, either. It affects everyone, even those who are not obese, and causes all sorts of health issues. 

Post # 8
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2011

there is definately a difference. i am fat, i have extra pounds that increase my bmi and make me look not so ‘lump free’ (lol!) but am i healthy?? for the most part yes ( i could do better, but cant we all?). i do not smoke, i work out at least 4 days a week, i eat healthy, my blood pressure is fantastic, etc. i think people just associate the word fat with unhealthy, like they go together or something? which they definately do not. i also believe that when people say fat, it is also attached to the word, obese, overweight, etc. these are all seperate terms and should be used accordingly.

Post # 9
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2011

@Statutory Grape: Sooo…when does “Fat” (aka overweight or obese) mean healthy??? 

I think the word fat is very negative and wouldn’t use it to describe myself or anyone else. Unhealthy is better because it speaks more to the real reasons people should not be overweight. Size should be about health and not so much about vanity.

Post # 10
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: February 2014

@kate169: I didn’t equate “fat” with healthy; just felt the need to point out that fat and unhealthy do not always go hand-in-hand, like many people believe. It does, however, depend on the definition of “fat” (overweight? obese?).

Post # 11
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: February 2011

@lilyfaith: Respectfully, I disagree. I think it depends on how you define “health.” My Mother-In-Law is 300+ pounds. She doesn’t diet, but from my perspective (and I don’t live with her so I can’t say this definitively but) she eats like a regular person. And she exercises 5x/week. No high-blood pressure. No high cholesterol. Entirely 0% plaque in her arteries (she’s had that tested). No osteoperosis. No cancer. No diabetes. No hearing problems, no eye problems. In fact, the only problems she has are knee problems, which yes, do stem from her weight. But honestly, she’s a lot healthier than my aunt who is of a normal weight and has high cholesterol and blood pressure and smokes.

Now, could my MIL be the exception and not the rule? Sure and she probably is. But I do believe that just as some people in this world are born skinny and will be skinny all their lives, some people are also born heavy, and will be heavy all their lives and it doesn’t automatically mean that they’re unhealthy.

I just don’t think you can tell what’s going on internally by looking at someone.

Post # 12
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Busy bee

You can be healthy and a size 20.  Some people’s natural body shape isn’t a size 10.  I have very thin friends who have had as many health issues as the chubby ones… and in some cases even more issues.   

Post # 13
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2011

@Statutory Grape: Yeah I’m gonna have to respectfully disagree. I don’t think fat (by which I took it in this post to mean overweight) is ever actually healthy.

By The Way, what ever happened to the good fat….aka PHAT??? haha

Post # 14
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

People can definitely be fat and healthy! Someone’s size is a really unreliable indicator of their overall health and habits.

Post # 15
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: June 2012

@JennyW1: My mom was the same way (not quite 300 lbs, but she’s 5’2″) and then her knee gave out from the strain of the weight and she started having back problems. She had to have knee surgery and the doctor told her point blank that if she didn’t start eating better and exercising, she would just have to get surgery again and would be damaging the knee more. Her body just wasn’t made to carry that much weight. The thing with obesity is sometimes you don’t see the problems right away. 

I agree that there are all different body types. I’m a perpetually chubby person. I have to work hard to get to my best weight, and to maintain it. I’ve been that way my whole life, and when I ate processed food, etc it was way worse. But even then I’ve been at both ends of the scale, and can tell you that when I weighed 50 lbs more, I had a fraction of the energy, a fraction of the ability to breathe well during strenuous activity, etc. 

 

 

@Missbliss: yes, you probably can if you have a very specific body type. But the majority of the people that are a size 20 probably don’t have that body type. This woman was 5’3″ or 5’4″. I doubt that was truly her healthiest weight, even if she led a fairly healthy lifestyle. 

Post # 16
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: February 2011

Well, Mother-In-Law IS 65, so although you don’t see problems right away, it’s been 65 years of being at least overweight if not obese. And she does eat well and exercise well–no processed foods, not a lot of sugar (she doesn’t like sugar). She does prefer to eat full-fat things to nonfat/lowfat, but we’re talking cheese on a sandwich or something. She IS taller than your mother though–more like 5’9″.

Like I said, she’s probably an exception to the rule and the vast majority of people who are obese DO have a lot of health problems because of it.

But to get back to the OPs comment, I think that the objection I have about “fat” is that it’s often a shorthand way to mean some sort of combination of “lazy,” “stupid,” “self-destructive,” and a lot of other mean things.

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