Post # 1
After today’s news regarding a proposed freeze on federal salaries, I started thinking about my job and am curious for the hive’s view on the following topic: federal parental leave.
As is, the Family Medical Leave Act allows parents to take up to three months of parental leave. If you want to get paid for this time off, however, you must use your accured sick or annual leave. Meaning there is no extra paid paternal leave. You either have to choose between using your vacation, your sick leave, or just not getting paid for this period.
Attempts have been made so that the first month is paid, and you can choose to either use your sick or annual for the remainder of time, but it has not passed in Congress.
As a federal employee I was quite shocked to hear this. I understand the concept of family planning, but I have worked for over three years and would not have enough time to go to prenatal appointments and enjoy the three month period without having to forgo my pay.
Post # 3
PATERNITY leave? Like for the dad?
A mother needs maternity leave to recover from birth and to be able to breastfeed every 2 hours. After 6 weeks, you’re good to go. You can have sex again, you can jump rope without peeing yourself, and the baby’s feeding schedule has stretched somewhat and you could pump at work. Yay 6 week maternity leave.
Why exactly does a man need paternity leave? PAID paternity leave? Even military dads only get 10 days.
Post # 4
My last job was like that, you could take up to a certain amout of time for leave but you didn’t get paid time off. If you wanted to get paid you had to take vacation/sick days.
Post # 5
My understanding was that FMLA leave is a right granted to all workers, gov’t or private sector, and that it may be taken for any family medical reason. For instance, when I was a corporate trainer for a national restaurant chain, we had to explain FMLA laws to our employees and had some take off when a child broke a leg, a spouse needed round the clock care for a few weeks, etc. My understanding was always that FMLA is a law that basically prevents your employer from firing you for taking off an extended amount of time for family medical purposes, not a law that deals with pay or a specific medical purpose/job sector.
Post # 6
I’m assuming you mean parental leave (ie, for one or both parents, not *just* for dads). Although, in Sweden there is extensive parental leave, and if a couple wishes to use all of it, some of it (2 months?) must be taken by each parent. In other words, there is something like a year total leave, but 2 months must be taken by the father. The mother can only take up to 10 months. Or the father could take up to ten months, and the mother could take the rest. It’s massively popular, and seen as a success in promoting father-child bonding and equality in parenting.
(PS – apologies for blatantly ignoring same-sex parents. The legislation works the same way for same-sex parents, but it was crafted out of concern about unequal parenting within heterosexual couples).
Post # 7
australia from Jan 1st is going to have paid parental leave – ive only started reading thru the paperwork because i have one lady in my office who is due in april
to be honest im not a fan of paid parental leave, we already give a $4000 baby bonus when you give birth and now this – no wonder im paying 38cents in the dollar in taxes (the next/highest tax bracket is 45cents in the dollar)
Post # 8
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You switch back and forth here between “paternal,” “paternity” and “parental.” I don’t expect everyone to agree with me, but I think there is a definite difference in need for time off for fathers (paternal/paternity leave) and mothers (who I presume are included in parental leave, but I would refer to as maternity leave). Fathers don’t need to attend prenatal appointments, and often do not share the same kinds of responsibilities and physical demands post-partum; I don’t think it should be a given that they get the same kind of leave. And of course, none of what I’m saying takes into considerations the needs of parental bonding for adopted children…
In an ideal world, everyone can take the time off they need to bond with their children. In a more restricted sense, mothers should be able to take the time off they need to recover after the physical trauma of childbirth. In the real world, I’m not sure that it makes total sense for businesses and taxpayers to shoulder so much of the cost of an individual’s choice to procreate, although I think leave in the U.S. is stingy compared to the rest of the developed world. I definitely support flexible leave for new parents… but I have mixed feelings about paid leave. If you want to take a leave of absence for your child, shouldn’t you be saving for that before you have a kid?
ETA: I work for a small business which only offers the minimum FMLA leave: 6 weeks, unpaid. I’d love for everyone to get three months of paid leave, but I can’t even get 3 months unpaid. I can’t say I’ll be lobbying my congressperson for you. 😉
Post # 9
Yes, paternal leave is for both parents, not just limited to men. Sorry if I wasn’t clear.
Post # 10
I think whatever they do for a woman they should do for a man and vice versa. Benefits should be equal across the board. That said, I think gov’t employees get enough benefits. I agree with spaniel, an individual’s choice and cost to have children shouldn’t be a burden on businesses and taxpayers but I’m in the minority on that. It’s not just because I don’t have children yet that I think this.
Post # 11
Ah, my brain is mush. I mean parental leave, but keep writing paternal. Long day. Sorry Bees. Either way, it would apply to both men and women. I am more concerned about it’s effects on ME!
Post # 12
I think we should work on health care for every person first