Post # 16
Here to ruffle some feathers. God specifically says that is not the woman’s place to teach the adults.
1 Timothy 2:11-12
Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.
While I would never sit under a female pastor, this is obviously up to you, and I don’t really know much about the Lutheran views on this. I do know there are two “branches”.
Post # 17
I guess only the OP can answer that question. There are certainly many couple who marry outside of thir own church for many reasons- no branch of their church where they are getting married, they don’t like the aesthetic of their own church, their church was booked etc etc
Post # 18
That is the gist of the whole problem. We don’t know that GOD ever said anything. We have stories that mere mortals reported on what he said or what they were told he said by someone else.
So, is it your position that females should not be university professors, clinical instructors etc.? Or does this only apply to teaching in the Church?
Post # 19
Thanks everyone. I chose to get married in an ELCA church because it has historical connections with my family. My grandparents and great grandparents were married there and it is a beautiful church with an amazing organ. I’m not sure if the church has always been ELCA but my family began going to a LCMS church when my parents were married.
Perhaps we should have picked a LCMS church for our wedding ceremony, but I did not think there would be any major issues.
Post # 20
Actually that was Paul, assuming that he was the one who wrote Timothy. I know there is some debate amongst scholars whether or not Paul wrote all the letter ascribed to him. Can’t remember if Timothy is one of those. Anyway, as a PP said, in the historical context, Paul was attempting to mainstream Christianity, and the Romans did not prefer female orators. Perhaps, in today’s context, it is not as relevant. Churches certainly interpret the scripture differently in this regard…..
My church only allows men to pastor. I don’t necessarily agree, but it is more important to me that Fiance and I have a church home than it is finding a church that agrees with all my personal beliefs. I doubt one exists…:-)
Post # 21
Wow. What a bunch of progressive women we have here.
Post # 22
julies1949: Well she wasn’t really asking how you felt about women in religion or why she would want to be part of that congregation. I mean, it is 2014 right? We can all make our own decisions, right? Maybe you should start another thread about how it is “beyond you” that someone would want to participate in something you don’t agree with.
MusicLove716: is it too late to change the church if it is something that is really bothering you?
Post # 24
Honestly, I am not sure. I was always raised in an LCMS church, but most Lutheran churches in our neighborhood are now ELCA. FI and I have not yet found a home church. I think part of the problem is I am concerned about what my family thinks. My dad can be very opinionated, and I am not sure he would approve of a female pastor for his only daughters wedding day. Yet, I feel odd asking the church for a change in pastor….
Post # 25
Why are you getting married in a ELCA Lutheran church rather than a LCMS Lutheran one is that’s what you are? If their views on things like this are different it doens’t make sense to me. I’m Catholic and female priests are not allowed although I don’t agree with that. Neither does my extremely Catholic mother.
Post # 26
Thanks for the lecture and the laugh.
Is it your position that the only acceptable responses are limited to directly answering the OP’s question? ( to refresh your memory, her question as Would it be wrong to request another pastor??) -answers would then be “yes” or “no”?
That would make for a pretty boring message board.
Post # 27
I am Methodist and had several female pastors. I’m honestly not sure how my grandfather, who recently passed away at age 95, felt about it, but I do know he was a progressive man. I would not hesitate to have a woman marry me, but, as I said, that would not be an exception in my church.
Post # 28
Well with 26k posts, you definitely keep the wheels on the board turning, so you would know.
Post # 29
PP just beat me to it, but I have to correct this:
“God specifically says that is not the woman’s place to teach the adults.”
No… PAUL says it is not a woman’s place to teach… and despite this, he relies heavily on women to prosthelytise the new religion, because he has such a shortage of suitable male volunteers.
The good Lord did not write Paul’s letters. Paul wrote the letters himself, based on his own historically and culturally situated interpretations of divine will. Big difference.
Post # 30
Enjoy your chicken dinner.