(Closed) Florist won’t sign a contract! What to do??

posted 13 years ago in Flowers
Post # 17
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Newbee
  • Wedding: July 2009

You said that you gave your florist a deposit. Did you two discuss your budget and what the flowers would cost when you gave her the money?  You need to know how much your centerpieces, bouquets etc. will cost right? Maybe you should ask her to give you an itemized list of all the flowers and what they will cost. That could be used as a contract. Personally, I would look for someone else, but you seem to want her, so this might be the best way.  If she can’t give you that, accept the refund, and find someone who is willing to make sure you are comfortable with the business transaction. 

Post # 18
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Wannabee
  • Wedding: December 1969

to me im not sure id go along with this unless a) i had strong referrals from multiple sources and/or b) they saved me a significant (and i mean realllly significant) difference in price…it all depends on what your floral budget is i think…if the sky’s the limit budget wise, then id say go find someone else, you definitely have enough time to find someone new & just as talented.

if this person is a "budget" vendor then you might want to really weigh out your options from a financial point of view. as i stated earlier if she’s really saving you a ton of $$ & you’ve heard she’s good then i’d say go for it.

personally i run on the paranoid side so i like having the "insurance" of a contract. having a contract is kind of a back up plan in case things do go really wrong on your wedding day. 

 definitely a tough choice! good luck!

Post # 19
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: July 2008

If you have a written estimate, and you’ve provided a deposit, that is an implied contract.  If worst comes to worst, you could go to court with that. 

Most of our vendors work on that basis – the contract consists of no more than the detailed order and estimate, including the date and time of delivery, the amount of deposit given, and the date and time that the balance is due.  In some cases this is written on a sales order form; our band leader actually had a one-page contract form specifying that information.  Our photographer gave us a detailed, written estimate that includes a description of the services we want.  Our bakery wrote it up on a one-page sales invoice.  From our florist I have a hand-written order summary and estimate, with her indication of receipt of my deposit, which she signed and I initialed.

If you are including some complex legalese in your contract about failure to provide services, I’m not surprised that your florist won’t sign.  A good faith estimate should be adequate to cover most eventualities, and if the florist and her delivery van are hit by a semi-truck on the way to your venue then most likely you aren’t going to get any flowers, unless she has some incredible staff who can rush around and make up something at the last minute from what is in stock.  For sure you’re not going to get what you ordered.

However, it’s up to you.  If the vendor has good references and does great work, it’s likely you’ll be happy with them.  If their reluctance to sign some kind of complex contract makes you want to go elsewhere, I guess you should.  Clearly your florist gets enough business without that kind of thing.  If you really love her work, I would talk to some past clients just to make sure that she’s reliable, and then see if you can’t just get a simple, handwritten estimate for your peace of mind – something along the lines of what bilbee suggests.

Post # 20
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: August 2010

I dunno… I think I would try to find another florist unless she a) gave you the lowest price b) can provide 5 references c) you have a REALLY good feeling about it. Otherwise, I’d say move along because who knows what could happen, and flowers are so important!

Post # 21
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2009

we are working with a small local florist who doe not deal in contracts either.  NEver had to, didnt make me nervous at all.  She did my brothers weding, several friens wedding,s does the flowers for our church EVERY sunday, and did my dads wedding to my stepmom.  Not all vendors have contracts, I dont see it as a huge deal

Post # 22
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: October 2009 - Ceremony: The Kraine Theatre, Reception: Midtown Loft & Terrace

I would be nervous about not having a contact myself, but if you really want to work with her or there aren’t many other options, can you do something along the lines of bilbee’s suggestion and make it really short, sweet, and to the point?

Post # 23
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: July 2009

Psst… this post is over a year old.  I wonder how the whole situation turned out?

Post # 24
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: August 2009

What I see here is a vendor who is confident in their work and scared of the legality/liability that comes with signing a formal contract. She might not understand some of the languagge you used and therefore . I think it’s very telling that she was polite in her response and offered a full refund of your deposit.

I like Billbee’s advice and I would ask her if she’d be willing just to sign off on a list of what she promised she’d provide by what date/time. If not then you’ll have to decide what’s more important the semi-security that a contract provides or your florist. If there are no other red flags, I’d personally stick with the florist.

Post # 25
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: August 2009

crap…. old bump, nice catch Mrs.DG

Post # 26
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Buzzing bee

If she won’t sign one, that’s a huge red flag to me not to use her. A contract protects both of you and spells out exactly what is included and what isn’t. It isn’t rocket science.

Post # 27
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: October 2009 - Ceremony: The Kraine Theatre, Reception: Midtown Loft & Terrace

Haha, I didn’t even notice that, DG. I want to hear what happened now, too! 🙂

Post # 28
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2009

HAHHA i didnt notice that either Mrs DG.  too funny!

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