(Closed) Focus on the Family CEO Admits: “We’re Losing” on Gay Marriage

posted 11 years ago in LGBTQ
Post # 20
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Newbee
  • Wedding: September 2011

Wow! I wasnt expecting this thread to go this way when I opened. All I can say is there are alot more people against gay marriage than what is evidenced by this thread. But I understand not wanting to speak up after the resounding support of the OP. This is not an equality issue. It is a right or wrong issue. It is a religious issue and yes, it is now a political issue as well. My vote goes to whomever is pro-life, for marriage between a man and woman and who supports Israel. Yes, I am obviously Christian. No I do not claim to be perfect, I am far from it but I do know what the Word of God says and I try to uphold it every day, it’s just some days I do better than others. God Bless you all! 

Post # 21
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Helper bee

@lmwolfe015: umm…this was posted on the LGBTQ board…I’m not really sure what other way you could have expected it to go.

 

To respond to you OP, this makes me really happy.  As a family member, it is really hard to think that my close relative won’t be able to celebrate their love with another person the way that I am able to.  I can’t imagine that and I really admire those who have the patience and persistence to fight for their rights.  I really don’t think that anyone should have to fight for it unfortunately.

Post # 22
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: June 2012

@lmwolfe015: God loves us all gay, straight, black, white, christian, jewish, ect.  He doesn’t discriminate.  Period.

Post # 23
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

@lmwolfe015:

I think you may have to dig a little deeper than that to respond on this issue. Why is marriage a religious issue? I am very curious to know.

To the OP: About damn time they admitted the reality.

Post # 24
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2011

@plantains: Honestly, I won’t even bother with this girl. It will just end up making you mad.

 

 

Post # 25
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Helper bee

@plantains: My Christian family says:

“Because the Bible “says” so.”  Well my response is what if you don’t believe in religion or the Bible?  Why should someone’s beliefs dictate someone else’s happiness who doesn’t even have the same beliefs?  Why should I let a book that I, and many others, don’t believe in dictate my happiness?  That response normally gets blank stares and a simple “well you should believe in it because it is right”.  My blood boils and I walk away.  But yeah, I agree with 

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@tranquility: don’t bother starting a debate.  There are a few people on these threads that you will never win with and just end up staring at your computer in disbelief and frustration.  I like a healthy debate but it is never a debate.

Post # 26
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2012

@lmwolfe015: You understand that not everyone is a christian, right? And that not all Christians interpret scripture the way that you do, anyway? Why should I be legally FORCED to uphold christian beliefs when I do not subscribe to that religion? No one is trying to take away your right to believe what you want and participate in your own religion, so why would you want to take away other people’s rights to believe in what they want and participate in the religions, or lack of religion, that they want?

I’m a gay woman and I want to be married to my female partner so that we can protect our future children, so that we can visit each other in hospitals and make decisions for each other in case of an accident, so that our property can be shared, so that I can add my partner to my health insurance.

Why do you want to take that away from us? Your beliefs are one thing and I will respect your right to hold them although I do not agree. But why would you want to be a person who actively campaigns to make other people’s lives worse? Our relationship does not affect you. You don’t even know us. And yet you want there to be laws so that we can not protect our family and our property. Why?

Post # 27
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: February 2012

@tranquility I was thinking the same thing

 

Gay marriage isn’t about religion at all IMO, it’s about legality. It’s not like churches would ever be forced to marry a gay couple if it went against their beliefs.

I’m glad attitudes are changing, I hope this continues, and spreads around the world. Nobody should be able to legislate in favour of inequality, it’s disgusting.

Post # 28
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2011

@mannellal: exactly!

I saw her response and this is what I did …

Post # 29
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: July 2012

@lmwolfe015: The logic and intellect behind blind faith never ceases to amaze me. You just go ahead and keep voting for pro-life, anti-gay, pro-israeli candidates, you obviously have an incredibly firm grip on the issues currently crippling your nation. *gentle pat*

::rolls eyes::

Post # 30
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Helper bee

To the OP,  I live in an area where is it pretty split by about 20 miles.  Where I live there are a lot of older traditional people who aren’t in favor ( a lot of the younger people are though) but when you get towards the city it definitely changes to in favor of.  It seems that bigger metropolitan areas are more progressive but smaller towns are still split.  That seems to be pretty consistent with most issues though.

Post # 31
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Newbee

@MrsCarnival: I’m from Minnesota, too. Born and raised here, and very proud of our progressive political history. The conservatives take control of the legislature for the first time in 40 years and THIS is what they decide is their #1 priority? Restricting the constitutional rights of a minority? When you ran on a “jobs jobs jobs” platform? You got a fight on your hands.

And don’t be so quick to to write off the oldsters on this issue, everyone. My parents are both approaching 90 and let me tell you, they vote in every single election and they WILL VOTE AGAINST this ridiculous anti-gay-marriage amendment. And let me just add that they are two of the finest, most sincere Christians I have ever met. I am very proud of them! 🙂

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