- 4 years ago
- Wedding: June 2013
Has anyone seen the Will Smith movie Concussion yet?
Has anyone seen the Will Smith movie Concussion yet?
Fiance and I have already decided no football.
For everyone saying, “Well, they could get hurt playing any sport” – yes, but the point of baseball is to hit the ball and run. The entire point of football is to SMASH OTHER PEOPLE’S HEADS INTO THE GROUND. Injury is literally inextricable from the game, whereas injury in basketball or soccer is coincidental.
We’ve also decided no gymnastics. Sorry, but I want my kid to go through puberty normally instead of being 40 pounds underweight and having hip dysplasia.
Mrs.Sugabee2003: “Have you actually read any research on football and concussions?”
Could you possibly be any more snarky when I asked a benign and completely non-confrontational question? I asked because I don’t know any football players who have had life-threatening injuries (not saying it doesn’t happen) and was wondering what people who were against football DID condone as an alternative that the child would also take interest in.
The Fiance and I just had this conversation about our son this weekend. We are in agreement that he will be encouraged to play other sports and actively discouraged from playing football.
Carolsays: I grew up with very controlling parents that were scared of their own shadows. I feel like I missed out on a lot of sports and social gatherings that my friends were a part of. For instance, I was not allowed to join Girl Scouts because three Girl Scouts were murdered 30 years before I was born. I was also not allowed to join cheerleading, ballet, student council etc. I was being groomed to be a physician or lawyer. I resented this and fought against it as much as I could and had some wild years in college to rebel. I eventually got it together and decided to finally pursue the things I wanted to. I got a PhD in psychology, went camping for the first time, spent a summer in Spain, dated and later married a man outside my race.
I always told myself I would not be that restrictive to my children. They should have the space to become whatever they want to be and have the experiences they want to have within reason. I know there will be plenty of times where I’m going to have to step in and protect my child but I never want it to be to the extent my parents did. Sorry that’s a long answer but thats the underlying reason for my decision.
Times are changing, and the data are suggesting that that head trauma has lasting effects. There are other sports. I would rather encourage the kid’s brain over braun.
I played softball in HS and my SO played football. We decided our (future) kids will not play football.
He works in an ER and sees a lot of football injuries – not just concussions, but lacerated spleens, livers, kidneys, broken ribs and every other bone you can think of. Concussions are not just caused by the big plays that make the highlight films. The chronic use of the head (not just in football, but also from something like head butting in soccer) can cause CTE.
Times are different from when he played. Athletes are much bigger, stronger and faster than when he played. Kids practice more than ever. Travel teams are everywhere.
I hope there is a happy medium between wrapping your child in a bubble and sports. I don’t know what it is though. My SO sees kids in recreational leagues get hurt too (obviously he sees more from kids/young adults in competitive leagues). There are other sports that I will not encourage as well, like gymnastics and boxing.
I dated a guy that played football also in high school and his attitude was his future kids will play football no matter what his future wife thinks. He thinks the concussion statistics are “made up” (I kid you not) or “completely blown out of proportion”. It was such a turn off that it in part led to our breakup.
I am probably a hypocrite because I love watching the NFL.
Having had a look at the direction this thread is heading in has raised an interesting question for me. I don’t know how the curriculum works in other countries, but with the way it works here then I do wonder how, exactly, you would stop a male child playing rugby? PE is a legal requirement as part of the national curriculum here, and unless the child has some sort of medical condition which they can be signed off for, you can pretty much guarantee that they will be playing rugby at some point. Unless you fancy coming into school and dragging the child off the pitch whilst all their open-mouthed classmates watch onwards, it can’t really be prevented.
Certainly in every school I ever attended then the non-optional PE classes were hockey, tennis, and netball for girls, and football, cricket, and rugby for boys. All of which sucked a bit if you were a girl, really, seeing as I much preferred cricket and rugby (especially cricket) to any of the “girl sports”. Anyway, I digress… my point is that I suspect playing these sports is largely inevitable…
KinkyOrange: I know in my state the schools have mandatory gym classes but the sports are dialed down a lot and aren’t taken to seriously by the gym teacher or students, it’s more for exercise and to learn the basic concept/rules. For example they play half court basketball and flag football. No contact allowed. Also girls and boys aren’t split up for any clases that aren’t mandatory. Yeah you see more of one gender in certain classes but everyone can join.
I voted yes, but I am a UK bee so was thinking soccer, not American football. Probably not in that case!
KinkyOrange: Same with mo711, I can’t speak for the UK but in the US “football” played in PE classes are touch football or flag football. There’s no heay equipment or helmets involved and no tackling allowed, so skinned knees tend to be the highest physical risk rather than concussions. Most schools don’t have the budget for that kind of volume of specialized equipment and don’t need the liability of students seriously injured/concussed during a mandatory class.
There’s physical risk with every sport. Rowing is a pretty obvious no contact, minimal risk sport but a teammate once fractured her rib during a practice due to a muscle contraction, and a couple others had back issues as well. But deliberately, repeatedly inflicted injury that can cause brain damage is a whole other issue and one that is taken way too lightly imho.
Speck_: I suppose I didn’t consider the cost of the equipment… here then we simply don’t wear padding most of the time… only the boys who are playing cricket wear pads, really. Everyone else just wears their sports kit. We still do the full contact sports, however (or, at least, we did when I was a child).
Thinking about it, actually, I wonder if there’s some sort of key difference between American football and rugby that I’m missing, because whilst I know lots of rugby players who have ended up with facial injuries, lacerations, and cauliflower ear etc etc I don’t know that many who have got actual concussions… and rugby players don’t wear helmets, either…
“Over the past few years, a growing body of medical research has confirmed that football can cause traumatic injury to the brain, not as a rare and unintended consequence, but as a routine byproduct of how the game is played. The central concern among doctors is no longer catastrophic injuries – concussions that result from big collisions – but the incremental (and therefore largely invisible) damage done by numerous sub-concussive hits.”
The above is a quote from the book Against Football by Steve Almond. He points out that the concussion protocols and safety rules do not protect players from these “sub-concussive” hits.
Here is another quote from the book:
“What would happen if some invisible gas leak in the school cafeteria caused diminished brain activity in students? Can we safely assume district officials would evacuate the school until further notice? That parents would be up in arms? That media and lawyers would descend in droves to collect statements from the innocent victims? Can we assume that the community would not gather together en masse on Friday nights to eat hot dogs and watch the gas leak?”
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