Post # 1
Hi Bees. So this post is somewhat unusual I am sure, but anyway, my mom found out about 10 years into her marriage that my father slept with a prostitute the night before they got married at his “bachelor party.” They have since divorced for that and other reasons, but because of this, the thought of Fiance having a bachelor party truly upsets me. It brings back all of the memories of when my mom found out about my dad- over dinner..his friends brought it up as a “joke.” The fact is, Fiance and I will have already signed the marriage certificate, and i dont see this as his last night of being single. He has not been single in YEARS. I honestly DO NOT want him to have this party. Is he being punished for my father’s infidelity and am I overreacting? probably. But, it still makes me so extremely uncomfortable, that I cannot stomach the thought of him having one. I cannot stand two of his single friends, who are VERY immature, and wouldnt put it past them to plan a party I would not approve of. Even though he does not party much now, he will feel peer pressured to drink way too much around these high school friends again. HELP?
Post # 3
@Hope_To_Be_MrsLovebug: Oh my gosh sweetie, I don’t blame you for being concerned! 🙁 So sorry to hear about your parents. Have you talked to your Fiance about this? I think this is something important for you to discuss if not!
Post # 4
@pengoala: Thank you. I have talked to him about it but he doesnt understand. He said he is different than my father, and he would obviously never cheat. I KNOW that. But it’s still something that I mentally cannot get past. I hate the concept of a bachelor party, and knowing how the news about my dad devastated my mom is in my head the whole time. And he LIED to her about it. She walked down the aisle on her wedding day with his solemn vow that nothing had happened.. 🙁
Post # 5
@Hope_To_Be_MrsLovebug: That is just awful! 🙁 I wish I had a good solution for you, but I just wanted to give you a great big virtual hug! I hope you two can come up with a solution that will work for you both.
Post # 6
I am so sorry for what your parents went though and I know some people who made a mistake on their bachelor party.
I fully believe before the party you and your Fiance need to sit down and talk limitations. He should respect you on this and honor you over his friends. If he can not do this I’d question if he was ready to get married or not.
Post # 7
I always begin my comments on these threads by saying that I know most of the bees will not agree with my thoughts on this topic. However, I do not think you are wrong — at all — in not wanting your Fiance to have a bachelor party that involves his looking at, touching, or being touched by other women.
Although many people enthusiastically choose to participate in what they view as expected rites of passage, not everyone agrees with this type of activity. If BOTH individuals in a couple want to partake of these activities and have no qualms about their soon-to-be spouse engaging in them as well, that is a choice they are free to make.
However, when one person objects, and the other still insists on participating, the one who insists on participating despite the feelings of his or her future spouse needs to realize that he or she actually is sending one or more (perhaps all) of the following messages to his or her SO:
* I don’t care that this makes you upset.
* I think your feelings about this are ridiculous.
* I have a right to do whatever I want.
* You’re wrong for trying to keep me from doing what I want to do.
* I would rather upset and offend you — the person I want to marry, than my friends who want to have this party for me.
Are those really the messages your Fiance wants to send to the woman he says he loves and wants to marry?
Post # 8
Conversely, by telling him you don’t want him to attend a bachelor party, the message you are sending him is “I don’t trust you.”
His behavior is entirely his choice and responsibility, not his friends’. A grown man can attend a party, drink but not get drunk, have a good time, and draw the line at any behavior that is not accceptable to him.
Post # 9
If your Fiance wants to cheat on you, he will do it. Whether it’s at a bachelor party or somewhere else.
I agree you two should talk about expectations, boundaries and what is respectful to each other. But I don’t think it is right to “deny” him the opportunity to have a bachelor party.
My Fiance is going to a baseball game and to a few bars with his friends for his bachelor party. No clubs, strippes, etc. I didn’t make a list of demands (he has no interest in that stuff), but we did talk about being safe when drinking/who would drive, etc.
If you are marrying your Fiance, you should trust him. You should trust that he will not do anything to compromise your trust in him or that would be disrepectful.
I do not think it is necessary for you to freak out over what happened between your parents. You are NOT marrying your father. Your Fiance is a different person and you should treat him like your significant other, not your child.
Post # 10
What you said: I honestly DO NOT want him to have this party.
What you meant: I do not trust you at all ever and I want complete control over your life. You are not allowed to do anything I do not want you to do.
Conclusion: If you can’t trust him, don’t marry him. He clearly has not done anything to merit your mistrust and thus this is your problem. Do not marry him for his sake. You need to work on you.
What you said: But, it still makes me so extremely uncomfortable, that I cannot stomach the thought of him having one.
What you meant: I don’t want him doing anything I don’t allow him to and I’ll use the “I’m uncomfortable” card and since my feelings are more important than his, I’ll win every time.
Conclusion: Get over yourself.
Seriously, you don’t give a shit about your SO. You don’t care about his wants or feelings. You don’t trust him, and this is explicitly clear. You’re blaming him for the sins of your father. Are you marrying your brother? No? Then seriously, get over yourself.
It doesn’t sound like you should be getting married at all. You’re not mature enough to do so or know how to deal with your own feelings and problems. Deal with that first before getting married.
Post # 11
i can understand why you feel nervous, but (obviously) your Fiance is not your father and can probably make better decisions than your father did.
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Post # 13
@Tphan: Nothing I said was harsh. She absolutely cannot deal with her own emotions, so how is she going to deal with what marriage throws at her? What happens if something comes up that she can’t control? Divorce?
This is something that needs to be worked out before marriage. Just because it isn’t what she wants to hear doesn’t make it harsh.
Post # 14
I’m tired of reading so many of these threads where the woman basically says that her feelings about the bachelor party are more important than the man’s feelings.
He is a person. He’s not your property, and other people will ALWAYS be touching him. It’s up to you to trust him to know how to put a stop to these things and step in when he needs the help – as in, he actually says he doesn’t know what to do about it.
OP, he’s NOT your father. Please don’t make the stupid mistake of pinning someone else’s sins on him. This also goes to those women who essentially think “my ex did this and that so I don’t trust that my SO won’t do them either”.
Post # 15
“Seriously, you don’t give a shit about your SO. You don’t care about his wants or feelings. You don’t trust him, and this is explicitly clear.”
That’s not harsh? I absolutely agree this is an issue that she needs to resolve with herself but I found much of your post to be unnecessarily mean.
Post # 16
@Hope_To_Be_MrsLovebug: What are his feelings on the bachelor party? I don’t think a healthy relationship requires dictating what the other can/cannot do, but it does require open communication and compromise to make each person happy and comfortable.
Also, while it’s hard not to take your father’s infidelity out on your Fiance, know that if your Fiance is going to cheat on you or sleep with a prostitute or stripper or whatever, he will do it whether or not he has a bachelor party.
We didn’t have bachelor/bachelorette parties, but if we did we were just planning on a typical guys/girls night out. I don’t think it has to be any different. Is he adamant on having strippers? If not, I guess I just don’t see what the issue is. Assuming you allow him to go out with his guy friends any other time…