(Closed) Gel vs. Acrylic vs. Silk Wraps

posted 12 years ago in Beauty
Post # 17
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68 posts
Worker bee
  • Wedding: July 2008

Hey NorCalBride,

 Take it as a compliment that they discouraged you from getting acrylics done. They’re perfectly fine for people who can’t grow nails, but honestly, if you have fairly strong nails, all you need is polish. I was a manicurist and the only time I had ever worn these nails was when I was taking a class or competing. I’m such a dork, no matter what I do, I have to go to competitions. 

 Hi Niki,

 Solar nails are a fancy term for uv cured gels (hence the solar). And yes, typically, they last longer. Honestly, if you go to truly skilled and educated manicurist, you shouldn’t ever have to have new sets put on (outside of you waiting too long to have a fill). I worked in the industry for several years and rarely had to put a brand new set on a person. It actually takes us longer to file and fill than it does to start from scratch. The solars are also more flexible and give more. Thus, if you need your nails to bend, yes they will hold up longer. However, acrylics have always been stronger as far as hardness goes. 

 As far as things turning yellow, I should warn all the brides out there, avoid applying strong sun block on your own near the wedding. Some of the sunblocks out there turn acrylic and gel nails yellow very quickly. I’ve even seen bullfrog sunblock cause major lifting. Try to find a sunblock with mexoryl (ecamsule), which blocks sun, but I’ve yet to see it cause problems with lifting acrylic nails. It was recently approve by the FDA for sale in the US (it’s been available around the world for years). You’ll probably find it through L’oreal, but I believe many others now produce it as well.

Post # 18
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62 posts
Worker bee
  • Wedding: April 2008

i had the same issue for my wedding. i am a surgeon and can’t keep long nails and needed something i could remove easily right away. i did virtual nails at dashing divas. check out their website: http://www.dashingdiva.com for locations. the nails melt off in a solvent you can buy for them and leave your nails in their original condition. i have tried silks and acrylics and they look great but are more difficult to remove and leave your nails looking beat up afterwards.

Post # 19
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754 posts
Busy bee
  • Wedding: May 2008

I think I should also note that it is only when I have fake nails on that I stop biting my nails.  No other solution has worked.

And there is no reason for your nails to look beat up after getting fake nails removed.  Have your tech do some filing and buffing and throw a clear coat on the top.  *Almost* as good as new.

Oh, and that thing about suncreens-watch out!  "Lifting" wasn’t the word for when I tried a new sunscreen.  My nails actually started to melt!  I could not figure out why it was happening, then someone pointed out the  sunscreen.  What n expensive mess!

Post # 20
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68 posts
Worker bee
  • Wedding: July 2008

Although they can buff and file your nails down, you’ll rarely find a manicurist ethical enough to do so. They’ll usually just rip them off. Why? Because few salons charge you money to remove acrylics. Its a simple matter of economics. In a high end full service salon with five manicurists, I was the only one willing to spend the 30-45 minutes to soak, buff and file them off to their original condition. The damage is usually done when they prime your nails for the acrylics as well. Many manicurists seem to think they need to take a thick file and leave grooves in your nails. In actuality, they only need to remove the first 2 layers to cells and a smooth dull finish is fine.

Post # 21
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68 posts
Worker bee
  • Wedding: July 2008

The same is true with silks everyone. There are manicurists out there that think they need to file the top of your nail before they apply it. They do not, they only need to softly buff it. In fact. when I repair my own nails, I don’t even bother buffing it. I just lay the silk on top and put a coat of super glue on it. Then, as the nail grows out and its exposed to water and it begins to degrade, I can the pull the entire silk off as if I’m taking off a clear coat of nail polish (you’d still be removing approximately  two layers of cells), but its hardly noticeable to the naked eye.

Post # 22
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102 posts
Blushing bee
  • Wedding: June 2008

This info is great!  I had my first manicure this past week, and I’m looking to have something longer (stronger – I have pretty weak nails) than my own nails on our wedding.  If they get as far as the tip of my finger, that’s impressive.  Based on this info, I’m still not sure what to get, but I feel more informed!

Post # 23
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306 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: September 2008

Thanks SoCalBride

I do have pretty strong nails but when I got a regular french manicure the paint chips off so fast and my nails starting chipping at a certain length (always the perfect lenth I want it to be) What can I do then? And when I get a french manicure the tips are very white and the base part is very clear if that makes any sense. It just doesn’t look so pretty on me being that I tan so easily. It’s such a big contrast. Also what do I do about my cuticles being so dry? Moisturizer lotions do not help any.

TIA! 

Post # 24
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68 posts
Worker bee
  • Wedding: July 2008

Hey NorCalBride!

 

What you should probably do is bring your own products to a skilled manicurist (even reputable manicurists won’t stock up on everything).

Steps for the perfect paint job (after the manicure):

1. Clean the surface of the nail with Creative Scrub Fresh (to remove excess cuticle oil and lotion, but its even better if you skip the oil and lotion or have both applied after your nails are dry, no amount of scrubbing will completely remove the stuff and they do prevent awesome adhesion).

2. Apply a thin coat of OPI BondAid. It is a ph balancer and really primes your nails for great adhesion. (always make sure each product has dried before applying the next!)

3.  Apply one thin coat of Creative Sticky Base Coat. This stuff dries sticky and really gets the lacquer (try to use lacquer and not polish, although they are often use interchangeably, there is a difference when they are labeled correctly) to adhere. 

4. After the base coat has dried completely, apply two coats of your nail lacquer (preferably OPI). If you are doing a french, do one coat of the white and one coat of the overall color wash.

5. Apply your top coat, the best one I’ve used thus far has been Seche Vite Dry Fast Top Coat (it goes on uber thick, dries to a super high shine, hardly chips [it is super flexible]  and it dries quickly). If you had a French manicure, and you are patient, apply two thin coats of the top coat for extra protection. If you have a steady hand, it is super beneficial to draw the tip of your brush across the front, horizontally, to cap your nails.

 ***A note, some people have nails that will grow like mad, but will also bend quite a bit. If your nails bend a lot, you may want to just get a thin layer of silk to harden them up a bit. When the nails bend, they cause your lacquer to crack underneath, this will eventually cause the paint job to chip or come off. You can usually tell this is happening if you have straight pieces of paint coming off horizontally and not just chips in the front.

 A French Mani For Girls With A Tan

If you’re looking for a different look, purchase some of your own lacquer from OPI or Seche Vite. They have awesome colors (soft whites, biege whites, bright whites, pink whites, pretty much anything under the sun, they also have milk shades of pink, biege, more fluorescent pinks, don’t be scared of the color in the bottle, try it on, a lot of clear hot pinks or raspberries go on with just a tint, thus giving your nails a nice rosy shade).

 Dry Cuticles?

Look for a product with jojoba oil like Creative’s Solar Oil. Jojoba oil, last time I checked, is composed of the smallest molecules of any cosmetic oil so it absorbs super well. It has a couple great attributes including the fact that it aids in healing (its used for stretching ear lobes), and it is a fungicide. I’ve also had awesome luck with Burt’s Bees Almond Milk Beeswax Hand Cream. Its nice and thick. You can get both in different sizes (a pocket size is perfect and important for your purse). If you’re prone to dry cuticles or hands, you should be carrying the product around with you. Remember, everytime you wash your hands, you’re washing away the moisturizing product as well! Once a night may not be enough.

 

Hope this helps ๐Ÿ™‚ 

Post # 25
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306 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: September 2008

Whoa! I’m thinking I should fly down to SoCal and have you work on my nails I’m taking notes and will be picking some stuff up hopefully this weekend. I’m sure my Fiance would love to see how much my shopping list has grown since this wedding planning. Lol

Post # 26
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68 posts
Worker bee
  • Wedding: July 2008

Ha ha, I actually hardly ever do nails anymore (only for friends, family, and a client who didn’t want to give me up so instead she pays me a ridiculous amount of money to come to her house). I’m finishing up college, and I’ve had just about enough of nail polish remover and feet I’m more than happy to share my knowledge in the area though!

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