(Closed) Gender Neutral Child

posted 9 years ago in Parenting
  • poll: Would you do this?

    Yes, my child has the right to choose it's gender.

    No, it's not gender neutral if it has gender specific parts.

    I am undecided.

  • Post # 61
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    Busy Beekeeper

    this is moronic. They are making life harder for this child.

    Post # 62
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    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: April 2011

    I saw this on tv.  Sounds silly to me.  What are they going to do when the kid gets a little older, they are out in public and the kids needs to go to the bathroom?  And even before then, how are they going to stop the Storm’s siblings (young children) from telling others what they see when Storm gets a diaper change?

    Post # 63
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    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: June 2014

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    @Mollytov: I love everything you just said (:

    I think the fact that lots of posters have brought up the bathroom issue is interesting. I’m a gender studies major and one of the things we’ve been focusing on in my intro to gender diversity class is the gendered nature of pretty much everything (ex: scents, aisles in the drugstore, bathrooms, etc). In my faculty we actually have gender neutral bathrooms rather than those labelled “men” and “women” so that students don’t have to choose between the two genders, especially if they are a transgendered person who has not fully transitioned.

    Although I can understand what this family is doing and appreciate their effort to reduce the impact of outside influences on Storm’s gender and gendered beliefs, I don’t know how effective it will end up being. The biggest changes will most likely occur in Storm’s temperment, language, and motor development. One of the most interesting studies I’ve read came from my developmental psych textbook. I’m sure some of you have heard of it since it is quite popular. The researcher studied the interactions between people holding a baby wrapped in a blue blanket and people holding a baby in a pink blanket. Those who held the baby in the blue blanket were rougher and encouraged more play, those who held the baby in the pink blanket were gentle with the baby and softly talked to it. Over time these interactions influenced the baby’s temperment (though genetics does play a large role in the development of personality). Although development has a biological basis, continued gendered interaction between a baby and a caregiver influences the baby’s eventual understanding differences in treatment towards boys and girls. Unless they totally isolate Storm, Storm will end up picking up on gender stereotypes and labelling processes from trips to the drugstore, kids at school, the wording in textbooks, sex education, etc.

    haha, sorry for the essay, i just found this article really interesting since it’s a mix of my major (gender studies) and minor (psych)

    Post # 64
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    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: November 2011

    You worded it perfectly in your poll question. You cant be gender nutral if you have gender spacific parts. Its just how I fee.

    Post # 65
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    Helper bee
    • Wedding: February 2011

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    @organizedbride11:  Ever heard of David Remier?  Google it.  

    His gender CLEARLY came from more than what was between his legs.

     

     

    Post # 66
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: August 2010

    This concept just blows my mind. I guess I am just to scientifically-minded and that how could anyone CHOOSE their gender. Like PP said, take away the stereotypes is one thing but from a physiological standpoint, you cant change much. 

    Post # 67
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    Helper bee

    With all of the bullying and issues going on with murders, suicides, and just mental distress in schools I couldn’t imagine setting my kid up to be punished in the future. I think that’s bad parenting. At the end of the day. We are what we are. God made us to be what we are. And if he wanted us to be different he wouldn’t have created us as is. Love who you are and cherish the blessed life you have been BORN with. Don’t go against God’s will. My opinion.

    Post # 68
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: October 2010

    I think a child should be taught that they will be loved no matter what.  I guess I feel that hiding the gender is somehow saying to the child that they were born wrong even if that child doesn’t feel that way!  

    Also I should point out that my Brother-In-Law is now my SIL because she felt strongly from very young that she was not supposed to be a he.  I think she made a very nice he, but I’m supporting her in whatever way I can.  She had a tough decision to make and she made the one that would make her the happiest.  Her parents/family are similarly supporting her.  

    Post # 69
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    Worker bee

    When I read the article I thought it was a spoof, or something produced by The Onion…

    Post # 70
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    Honey Beekeeper
    • Wedding: June 2009

    I believe that you are born with a sex but you chose your gender.  A child should not be an experiment in nature vs nuture for gender selection.

    Post # 71
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    Helper bee
    • Wedding: February 2011

    I just don’t get how people think the kid will be damaged or picked on for this!  They are not limiting gender, they are just letting it come out naturally on its own.

    Newborns cannot express themselves much, and we cannot generally tell if they are male or female (hence all the blue and pink) so Storm’s gender really does not matter at this point.  The parents are just trying to minimize other people treating Storm differently based on gender.  

    Long before the kid is ready to attend school, Storm will be aware of gender and know what bathroom to use.  They have never said that they intend to keep Storm from talking or realizing what gender Storm is.  I do not believe that anyone ‘chooses’ their gender, but what is so horrible about waiting for it to become apparent?

    I think that it says a lot more about the adults that so many are so upset that they aren’t being told what sex the baby is. 

    Post # 72
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: October 2013

    I think the parents just want to be in the spotlight. :/

    Post # 73
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    Busy Beekeeper
    • Wedding: September 2012

    I can understand by not dressing girls in pink and boys in blue or boys play with trucks and girls play with barbies. I have friends that do this. I don’t understand hiding the sex though. That’s weird. Soon or later, everyone is going to know. 

    Post # 74
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    Helper bee
    • Wedding: February 2011

    I don’t understand hiding the sex though. That’s weird. Soon or later, everyone is going to know.

    Of course everyone will know eventually- they are not trying to make a hermaphradite.   The point of hiding the sex while a baby is to avoid influences like Sugarpea mentioned above:  The researcher studied the interactions between people holding a baby wrapped in a blue blanket and people holding a baby in a pink blanket. Those who held the baby in the blue blanket were rougher and encouraged more play, those who held the baby in the pink blanket were gentle with the baby and softly talked to it. Over time these interactions influenced the baby’s temperment

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