Georgia's new "heartbeat" bill? Thoughts?

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Post # 76
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

I think it’s horrific they wont even excempt for rape. A woman’s body has already been violated once and her choices taken from her, to think that it would then happen again legally is just awful. Kslim13 :  

Post # 78
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: April 2018

Kslim13 :  I don’t really want to get into the argument of pro-life v pro-choice since that wasn’t the point of your original post, but I’ll answer your question.

Yes I agree it could be horrific for a woman to carry a baby conceived through rape or incest. 

Unfortunately however, I think it is more wrong to murder an innocent fetus because of it.  I see a fetus as an underdeveloped baby, not a “clump of cells”.  I don’t think it would be right to murder a product of rape baby after a birth, I don’t think it makes it okay if it’s before birth. 

I would like to reiterate, my point of mentioning my pro-life stance is that even I disagree with the details of Georgia’s bill.  They have no rights to what occurs in other states and no woman suffering through a miscarriage or still birth should have the indiginity of being questioned about it.

Post # 79
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: October 2016

I also wonder WHO can claim a woman who had a miscarriage brought it on herself. Like can my husbands ex wife make a claim I was drinking before my miscarriage, would that be enough to have me charged and arrested? Because she would totally try that if she had half a thought it could possibly work. There’s no provisions that I’ve seen for something like that. How easily could this be turned into a witch-hunt?

Post # 80
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: October 2016

Post # 81
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Bumble bee

I’m not from the US and I was horrified by this and the news from Alabama. It’s disgusting.

Schools have absidence only education, insurance doesn’t cover birth control, death penalty is legal, there is no maternity leave, pregnancy and delivery costs shit ton of money, there is no free health care, no paid maternity leave and not that great child benefits. I just don’t get the logic.

It would make sense of there was a vigorous sex ed campaign. Everyone over the age of 12 got free birth control and then the pre-natal stuff was free and then the forced mother would have generous benefits. It would still be disgusting but at least then my brain could comprehend this absolutely horrendous law that sets everything back. With state legislations like these it really makes me wonder about the status if a developed country. And I know it’s not all states and a lot of people don’t support this and everything  varies between schools, towns, states.

Post # 82
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: Dorset, UK

Honestly, I just can’t even with the USA. The world is slowly burning to the ground. 

Post # 83
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Newbee

Being “pro life” isn’t a realistic stance on pregnancy and therefore laws built around it are built to furnish patriarchal systems of oppression.

If being “pro life” was a real stance in America, the same people that care so deeply for humans that don’t even exist yet are the same people that would champion easy and cheap/free healthcare for all currently existing humans, to ensure everyone’s life is cared for.

That, as we are well aware, is not how conservative thinking works. They don’t care about any living human being. They’re happy for people to die of cancer if they can’t afford treatment, be shot up in classrooms while they learn and receive no financial assistance when struggling because that would be creating a “welfare” state, and we all know Republicans don’t care about the welfare of anyone but the old and rich.

This bill and the mere existence of the Republican Party as it currently stands and the president it supports are a perfect example of how backwards America really is as a country.

Post # 85
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: City, State

Don’t forget about Texas and the bill to give women the death penalty for having an abortion!

Also, no more abortions that are “discriminating against disabilities” – even if that disability is one of the Trisomy’s that result in your fetus not being compatible with life. 

Post # 87
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Busy bee

Looks like I agree with pretty much every previous poster except one. 

We live in an incredibly scary society, to the point my husband and I are on the fence about having children.. leaning more toward not. I just can’t with this country anymore. 

Post # 88
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: City, State

I don’t understand where you’re coming from. I guess my first question is do you have children of your own and have you been through pregnancy?

Hypothetically: If you had a daughter and she was raped you would want to force your daughter to go through the physical and emotional turmoil of 9 months of pregnancy to give birth to a baby she did not want and will ultimately remind her of a horribly traumatic experience, likely the worst thing to ever happen to her? You would want your daughter to think of being violently raped every time the baby kicked in her womb? And see all the features of the rapist in the babies appearance once it’s born? 

I guess I don’t understand how this potential baby is more important than the girl/woman who was once your baby, her thoughts, her feelings, her experience. You would put her second? At what point does her well being start to mean less than your beliefs or the well being of something the size of a poppyseed?

rosadiaz :  

Post # 89
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Busy bee

slomotion :  apparently poppyseeds with electromagnetic signatures have more rights than a living, breathing woman. Smh. I’m checking out before I become a total bitch. 

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