Post # 1
- Wedding: June 2007 - City, State
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So I was talking to my daughters this morning before school. I have 4, ages 10, 7, 3 and 7 weeks. Anyway, the 10 year old comes out wearing fashion boots with a small heel. I tell her hey, you have gym today, go throw on sneakers or you won’t be able to run. I meant that logistically it would be more difficult and uncomfortable to run but she could do it.
Both my 10 and 7 year old proceed to tell me their Male gym teacher will not let kids participate in gym if they are wearing a dress or boots. Now we live in the south so I don’t mean snow boots. They have to sit out and read or just watch.
My first reaction is being suuuuuuuper irritated. Fuck you a girl can’t exercise in a dress. Flat boots are fine, heeled boots can be a hazard I can see, but even then how is that not sexist???
This is the second time I have had issues with the gym teacher. My 1st grader came home awhile ago for the 3rd week in a row complaining the entire class was being punished for the actions of a few kids who weren’t listening and weren’t allowed to do activities, they had to do like burpees and frog jumps in place and that’s it. IN FIRST GRADE.
So do I bring this to the principal? I had had enough with my kid being repeatedly punished for other kids not listening and it got fixed. And I don’t usually interject with how a teacher does things. I always encourage my girls to wear whatever is comfortable but like, making a girl sit out because she is wearing a dress is wrong AF to me.
Post # 2
From my limited memory of times I did not skip gym class, we also were not allowed to participate if we were not wearing clothing that fell in the gym guidelines which would include dresses. However, this is in high school. In elementary I have specific memories of being in frilly ass dresses and having to run “pacers” in gym. But they did make me sit out some things so as to not flash my cookies I guess.
I think it’s less sexist and more practical.
Post # 3
sf618b : god this sounds like my PE teacher in elem school– he would drag a folding chair into the middle of the baseball field, eat sunflower seeds and watch us run bases during recess. That’s it, for first and second graders running in the heat!
I know at my stepchilds school– girls are allowed to wear skirts, but they have to be a certain length and have shorts on under them or else they’ll be asked to change clothes. The boot thing is new to me, I can see the heel being an issue (maybe? I’m thinking rolled ankles); but flat boots? Thats absurd.
Post # 4
I know when my children were older they were required to wear specific gym clothes and from first grade on nobody was allowed on any of the gym floors unless they were wearing appropriate, dedicated gym shoes that were kept at school as street shoes apparently damaged the floor.
Post # 5
- Wedding: September 2019 - City, State
Check the school handbook. I know when my kid’s went to school they were only allowed to wear their shorts or sweat pants to gym. Girl’s were not allowed to were dresses because of the fact that if there was tumbling etc. their dresses would flip up and show their panties. Kind of makes sence. But if you have an issue with them not being able to wear a dress to gym then yea I would take it to the principal and see what they say but they would probulary say what I just said.
Post # 6
I understand a rule that requires sneakers, both for the safety of the kid and to protect the gym floor + equipment – this was the standard rule when I was that age. But not allowing kids to wear dresses when they are otherwise allowed to participate in their street clothes (ie. not a gym uniform) is unfair.
Post # 7
Children should be in runners/trainers/(whatever you call them in your area). It is not sexist. Boys need to wear them too. It’s more a safety issue. There is not the same support in other types of should. Children are much more likely to fall over if they are not wearing wearing suitable footwear. They are also more likely to hurt/twist their ankles, be less able to stop suddenly or turn direction. Unsuitable footwear could also destroy the gym floor.
Children should also learn at a young age that they need to wear suitable clothing for different activities. Swimwear for going swimming. Runners for gym. Uniform for class (if required), team kits if they play sport, helmet if cycling, etc etc. They can’t always wear exactly what they want.
Post # 8
sf618b : When I was a kid (a loooong time ago) we had to wear appropriate shoes for gym class, and we had gym class every single day. The appropriate shoes were sneakers. I don’t know if you’ve walked on some of those gym floors lately, but without appropriate footwear they can be really slippery and downright dangerous. Also other shoes can be very damaging to gym floors. So that was the reason that you had to wear sneakers. I was a tomboy so I don’t remember what the rule was about dresses but my guess would be as long as you have shorts or something underneath, it would be fine. I mean, we did cartwheels and stuff in gym so, again, it would just make sense.
But that was just in elementary school. By the time middle school started we always had to wear a gym uniform for gym class.
Post # 9
As a gym teacher I absolutely do not let my students exercise in non-athletic clothes. If someone rips their jeans or khakis (because they aren’t stretchy like athletic wear) then the rest of their day is inconvenienced. Definitely no dresses or skirts. This isn’t sexist, it’s meant to protect your child’s modesty and like slomo said… practicality. Granted, I am a high school teacher so we have locker rooms. I remember in elementary school we did not have a locker rooms and weren’t required to change but I cannot remember what was done if someone was wearing a dress…
Also, anything other than athletic shoes worn during physical activity can cause an injury or damage to the gym floor.
I think you’re being a little over sensitive. If I were you I would ask to shadow the class and see what’s going on. I wouldn’t take a 10-year-olds comments at face value but I would want to see for myself.
Post # 10
sf618b : I know it was 15 years ago, but at high school I had the opposite. My PE kit for summer or indoor was to wear a gym skirt and gym knickers. During my later years we were allowed to wear sweat pants as opposed to leggings under the gym skirt if it was cold. There were definitely no issues, the gym skirt didn’t pose a health and safety risk which is the only reason something shouldn’t be worn for PE. My issue is that I wanted to shorts and not gym knickers 🤢
Post # 11
I think this has nothing to do with being sexist and everything to do with wanting the children to be safe and wearing appropriate work out attire.
im pretty sure if I showed up in a dress and boots that orange theory would ask me to go home and put some actual work out clothes on.
Post # 12
My kids school makes you wear tennis shoes for safety which I think is obvious. They can wear a dress but it needs to not be long (knee length is good) and they need to wear shorts underneath. But honestly, gym standards have fallen so low since I was in school. You know one of the activities kids are taught at my daughter’s school? Cup stacking. To me that’s not exercise.
Post # 13
Why are they not keeping appropriate gym shoes at school? Like PP said, my experience was only certain shoes were allowed on the gym floor. All through elementary school we had to have shorts on under our dresses if we wore them (we stopped at the restrooms before PE so we could put our shorts on) and have appropriate shoes and socks and you changed before class. You could either keep them in your cubby/locker or bring them every day.
Sometimes you just have blanket rules for safety and logistical purposes and if the you have rules then they have to be enforced. Maybe today it is your daughter and flat boots but tomorrow it’s a girl with a shoe that has a heel and the day after it is someone in sandals trying to kick a soccer ball or gets their foot stepped on or it rains and they can’t be outside where shoes don’t matter like it does on the gym floor. I also remember in elementary school we would have not skirt appropriate activities like tumbling or relay races on little scooters we sat on and scooted (where a skirt could easily get caught by the wheel). Sure, maybe today’s activity wouldn’t have posed a problem. But on other days it might and who has time to police that every day to make exceptions instead of having one very easy to remember and judge blanket rule? Teachers should spend their time teaching, not having to make judgment calls on footwear and outfits for every kid every day. Buy a pair of tennis shoes and shorts, write her name on them and keep them at school.
Post # 14
We did cup stacking when I was a kid too back in the 90s. eeniebeans :
Post # 15
eeniebeans : It was probably meant to be a mini activity to teach proprioception? I’m sure that wasn’t the only thing that they did that day. Usually lessons are scaffolded and it’s possible that being able to balance something like cups will come into play later in T-ball or even gymnastics.