(Closed) Ground Zero Mosque? just curious

posted 10 years ago in Legal
Post # 17
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2010

Well I am not up in arms about it. The developer(s) have every right to do so. Yes, it isn’t the most sensitive move when alternative sites were offered, but you have to ask yourself…where is the line? Why shouldn’t muslims, who want community, be active and visible in NYC? It would be one thing if they would be spewing hate, but it is quite another when the commonality is that they happen to share a broad religion with the 9/11 terrorists. Certainly all Christians don’t lump themselves together, especially with terrorist “Christians”. I really don’t think it will stand because people seem to have worked themselves into a frenzy and might do something regrettable.

Post # 18
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2010

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@killerpenguins05: “Another thing people don’t realize is Muslims worship the same God Christians and Jews do.” Do people believe otherwise? Wow, I didn’t even know there was a misconception about this. I’m Muslim btw. Not a practicing or devout one, but at least by way of birth.

Post # 19
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: July 2010

I have a hard time wrapping my head around the logic of people who are against the Islamic cultural center.  Would people be upset if a church or Christian center were built near an abortion clinic that was bombed by the Army of God?  I don’t see how this is a slap in the face…and the argument that it will make it even harder for families of victims to visit the ground zero makes no sense to me either.  Let’s not forget that people from over 70 countries died that day, as well as people of all religions and even NO religion! 

I think Keith Olbermann says it best http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677//vp/38731398#38731398

Post # 21
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2011

They have a right to build wherever they want. And I’m going to be in the minority here, but I don’t think it was insensitive either. Why should all muslims have to apologize for something terrible and evil a few radical ones did? Should all Christians apologize for Timothy McVeigh? Or do all Germans have to apologize for Hitler? I don’t  see how its really that insensitive. People from over 70 countries died that day. So I would suppose there were at least a few muslims that lost loved ones there as well. Besides, its really more of a community center than actual mosque. It will just have a place for prayer as well. 

Also, it’s two blocks away! Its not as though they’re building right ON TOP of ground zero. How far away do people want them to go??

Post # 22
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2011

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@In the media: I read on CNN yesterday one in FIVE Americans thinks he is Muslim. WTF?? First of all, WHO CARES??? Oh gosh…

Post # 23
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2010 - Indiana Memorial Union

It’s two blocks away and it’s a community center. Know what’s closer to ground zero? Strip clubs.

Post # 24
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: October 2011

I heard on the news there was something to do with the name of the center…. that it related to the name of a mosque/center in Spain that was built on a site of a former Catholic church and that one of the pillars of Jihad is to build a marker of triumph/success near a successful attack….

There are so many conflicting news reports that I am having trouble understanding the whole debate.

Post # 25
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: May 2011

People in this country need to learn that “muslim” and “terrorist” are not synonyms.

Post # 26
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: December 2011

Ok just have to throw my 2 cents in here… Did you know there is already a mosque that is there and they want to expand? Look it up, its true…

Post # 27
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: December 2011

AND it is the United States, every one has the right to RELIGEOUS FREEDOM

Post # 28
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2011

It is actually not at ground zero. I think the press is making it way more than it is. In my opinion, it is a non-story.

However, I also think that blaming all muslims for what some insane terror group did is not ok. Our country needs to remember waht happened to thousands of Japanese Americans after Pearl Harbor.

There are Muslims who are just as American as the rest of us and shouldn’t be held responsible for what some maniacs did. And as far as a slap in the face…I think it would be a big “F.U.” to those that DID hit those towers. We would be rubbing it in their faces that we have freedoms and choices that they do not have, and that we honor freedom of religion. 

Post # 29
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: August 2010

I think the mosque has a right to be there, is not connected to terrorism and should not be associated with terrorism.  However, when I first heard the plan to build, I thought, why?  There are hundreds of other things that could have been built there, why pick the one thing that is going to stir up controversy. It seems deliberate. Perhaps the developers are trying to promote understanding, but I don’t know that it will have that effect or not.  And sure, maybe it is a few blocks away or it’s really a cultural center, but the public at large is not going to distinguish those things.  Some people think its not insensitive, but other people think it is – and why do something so deliberate that will hurt people and stir up controversy and possibly more prejudice?

Post # 30
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Bumble bee

1 – it’s not a mosque. it’s a community center with prayer space and a culinary school. we like to make things sound more impressive in this country, even if we’re lying.

2 – it’s like, 4 blocks away from ‘ground zero.’ There are 3-4 churches closer to the site than the center would be.

3 – the name would be 45 Park Place. Sounds scary doesn’t it?

4 – there’s already a mosque near ground zero. it’s been there since the 70s. it’s across the street. no one seems to care or notice that it’s a big deal. wtf would a community center several NYC blocks away matter or be insenstive? it wouldn’t. we just don’t like people who aren’t just like us because they make us uncomfortable.

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/

Post # 31
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: January 2011

i’m still trying to figure out why if its only about building a mosque near ground zero,  why are people picketing mosques and islamic centers in TN, CA, and WY?

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