(Closed) Guidelines to choosing a photographer(VERY Long and Informative)

posted 6 years ago in Photos/Videos
Post # 3
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1405 posts
Bumble bee

FYI  Most this info and more is already in LB’s sticky at the top of this forum.  I don’t agree ( at all ) with #4, but I am not going to turn this thread into an arguement so I won’t be responding anymore.  You have not been in the business long, and what you wrote is not 100% accurate especially in the wedding industry

 

Post # 5
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2011

If they refuse to give you all of your unedited images, move on. It is your event, period; it is unethical for someone to keep your images from you.

Are you being serious with number four? It’s pretty standard for photographers to cull their work and only present the absolute best. In fact, that’s one of the things that separates pros from amatures pretending to be pros and Uncle Bobs and the like. Also, if you’re really a pro you are shooting in RAW and your clients are probably not even going to be able to open RAW images much less do anything with them.

That being said I do agree with a lot of what you said…but I have to strongly disagree with #4…even Jose Villa doesn’t give away all of his unedited images.

Post # 6
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2011

I agree with PPs. #4 is a little ridiculous. I expect my photographer to deliver the number of images agreed upon in their contract, but I didn’t expect to see all 1,000+ photos she took. 

I got over 800 photos all fantastic.

Also, for #3 I don’t really agree either. I think you should ask to see a few “full weddings” (i.e. what is the finished product the photographer delivers) not “show me your worst work. 

Also, the professionals on here like USER and LB really seem to have the brides/clients’ best interests at heart and are really trying to provide insight into how quality photographers do their work.

Post # 7
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Sugar bee

I think your intent is generally good, but your tone is rather condescending. That last sentence was not needed at all, IMO.

What attracted me to the photographer we’re hoping to book is her personality and her portfolio. She’s delightful to talk to, we’ve exchanged multiple emails over the past several weeks and I can tell she has a similar mindframe as me. I think that can be important, aside from the quality of work – that you get along with the person and can talk to them about what you want and see eye to eye.

Post # 9
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: January 1993

@Koolbeans621: From everything I’ve read (not just on the Bee) shooting weddings vs. shooting other events is not the same. Personally, I think getting the advice of other full-time wedding photogs is more valuable than someone with a couple of years experience and a college degree. You might want to include a disclaimer that you are not a wedding photog with your advice.

Not trying to be mean, but I just think you’re coming at it from a different angle than most of the experienced wedding photogs would.

Even the best photogs will have bad shots…..not sure why they’d want to hand those over to a client. Which is why it’s so important to see an entire wedding’s worth of photos, and not their top 10 photos.

I wish I had read LB’s sticky before we picked our photog 🙁

Post # 10
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: December 2011

I completely disagree with #4 and absolutely understand why a photographer wouldn’t wants to share unedited photos.  To be frank, I am paying the $$$ to have them sort through the crap for me.  Why would I want a photo with everyones eyes closed or out of focus?

I am geting ~500 edited images and I think that is plenty, if not almost too many!

Post # 12
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: December 2011

@SarahSmilesDec28: Couldn’t agree more. I paid her a ton of money so she could sift through all the crap! We hired our photographer for 7 hours and just got our pics back last weekend. There were 726 edited final photos for us, which is WAY more than I ever expected. God only knows how many she had to go through to give me those, but I’m grateful! I remember taking a lot of shots that didn’t make it into the final showing, so I’m sure they just didn’t turn out as good as hoped. I completely 100% trust her judgement on which were the best pics to show us.

Post # 13
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2011

@Koolbeans621:

Oh no worries, you aren’t hurting my feelings, but I feel you are doing a disservice to brides by telling them to “move on” if the photographer won’t supply all unedited photos…What exactly do you mean “it’s crazy easy to go JPG…”? I sincerely hope you are not insinuating photographers should be shooting in JPEGs…Also, I think you are on the right track with your thinking about pro photographers having less bad shots, but still every photographer is going to have a few that aren’t the best (people will blink, other guest’s flashes will fire at the same time as yours, etc). I also feel like it’s a burden on a bride to have to sort through a couple thousand images to come up with the best 800-900 images…as a professional, that’s my job to do (as well as all of the editing) not theirs.

Honestly number four on your list is a dead giveaway you are an amature and that’s cool and all, I just don’t want brides to read this and think that particular statement is a fact they should base their photography choices on.

Post # 14
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: January 1993

@Koolbeans621: Nowhere in there do you explicitly say that you don’t shoot weddings, nor have you. I assumed because you were giving advice on wedding photography, that you had experience in it and that was accounted for in: I work mostly in academia so the standard is very different and most of my work is for advertising purposes. ‘Most’ leaves room for interpretation. I figured that meant you’ve at least done a few weddings or working with other photogs on them.

Not until your third post did I catch that you don’t actually shoot weddings.

Post # 15
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Bumble bee

I’m breaking my own rule by responding, but yes I feel this thread is more a disservice than helpful.  Even pro’s have images that the clients don’t need to see.  Like test shots when testing lighting, or “shotgunning” where you hope to get one or two good shots out of a sequence (yes even the pro’s do this and there ARE various reasons why one would have to do this which I will not get into, and it has nothing to do with skill or talent).

 

Post # 16
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: June 2014

Yeah… no. This post is crazy condensending and not the best advice either. I would never ever EVER show all my images unedited. I did suggest one Bee to ask this of her photographer, but that was a unique situation- not the norm or what other Bees should want/expect. Sorry this post is just weird, I don’t get the point of it. This is setting Bees up with crazy unrealistic expectations from someone who doesn’t shoot weddings so how would you really understand? Weddings are an entirely different animal. 

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