(Closed) Gun control due to terrorism

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Post # 2
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Bee Keeper

I think it’s the culture and mentality. I read a quote from a farmer in NZ who was voluntarily giving in his gun. He said it is useful on the farm, but it’s usefulness isn’t worth someone elses safety. The US has a complete different mentality – its my right so fuck off basically. A very selfish, individualistic society.

Post # 3
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

I was so shocked when I saw what happened, that just wasn’t New Zealand. 

Its the same here. After the Dunblane school shooting in the late 80s our gun laws changed too. We have a big issue with knife crime at the moment, but it’s hard to commit mass murder with a knife. That and again laws are changing to try and deal with it. missviolet92 :  

Post # 6
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

Similar to yours. Basically you can get a license for a shot gun and you have to have regular police checks to ensure it’s kept safely (locked away with ammunition kept separate) and jabs your license renewed regularly. Mostly it’s farmers / country estates that have these guns. 

Semi automatic guns were banned after Dunblane. Our police have an armed unit but your average policeman doesn’t carry a gun. 

 

Post # 7
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: January 2019

Being a US citizen is embarrassing when it comes to gun laws right now. It absolutely is a selfish mindset and a refusal to progress and adapt (the 2nd amendment was written in a very different time before we could comprehend the weaponry we have now). I have no issue with hunting, but the lack of any real and meaningful regulation on types of guns or access to guns is inexcusable. Couple that with our terrible mental health assistance and it’s no wonder I keep my classroom door locked at all times….

Post # 10
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Helper bee

A majority of Americans are in favor of more restrictive gun laws, like universal background checks and banning assault rifles.  A majority of gun owners are also in favor of that.  But the NRA has been paying off politicians through campaign donations and other influence for years, so politicians don’t pass gun legislation.  And the NRA and Republicans use fear to control voters and make them think Democrats will break down their doors and take their guns next if allowed to pass even one additional restriction on guns. 

That fear-mongering caused gun sales to rise dramatically during Obama’s terms in office (which gun manufacturers and the NRA just LOVE) despite Obama never once going after anyone’s guns. Gun buying goes down during Republican administrations, and up duirng Democratic ones.  Gun buying goes up after mass shootings because people are afraid they’ll pass new gun laws in the wake of the murders, so they might not get to buy more guns, especially the really deadly ones.  After mass shootings, we’re told “it’s not the time” to talk about gun control, and how dare we “politicize” the mass shooting by talking about needing stricter gun laws.  It’s tyranny by the minority.

The Parkland shooting teenagers have done a lot to make it ok to talk about gun control again in this country.  There is a long way to go and it starts with people getting their heads out of their asses, but you can never count on that happening in the US. The Democratic House is proposing new gun legislation, but the Republican Senate won’t even vote on it. The Parkland massacre and the Las Vegas massacre and the Orlando nightclub massacre and the synogogue in Pennsylavania and the church in Texas and the… are almost never menioned anymore.  Some people still think all those young children dying at the Sandy Hook massacre were “actors” and it was a hoax.  Propaganda seems to work on a lot of people, even when children are dying in schoools regularly.

Post # 12
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Bumble bee

I think the problem in the US is the lobby groups and that they have deep connections in the government. Also it’s deeply embedded in the culture, so people are like “I’m a responsible gun owner so I shouldn’t lose my right to get a gun”, whereas in Aus and NZ, most people probably don’t have guns or even seen a gun in their life lol..

All I can say is, Australia and NZ are much safer places to live than the US from my perspective.

Post # 14
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: October 2017

The us has a mentality of “it doesn’t affect me so I don’t care”

It’s a “me me me me not my tax dollars me me me me” society and it’s so disgusting.

Post # 15
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: October 2017

izzabella :  about sandy hook, that pos Alex Jones has finally been sued by the families and I believe he’s been off of the air. He’s a disgusting pos and I hope they take everything from him

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