(Closed) Had to return our ring

posted 8 years ago in Rings
Post # 3
1943 posts
Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

If you love it and the appraisal agrees with the jeweler, why not?? I assume it comes with some type of certification? 

Post # 4
2842 posts
Sugar bee

@mxnikka:  My first e-ring had a 1/3 ct. (I think it was .35 actually) center stone which I think was cut a little shallow because most people (including jewelers) thought it was 1/2 ct. It was an SI1 or 2 (I forget) and it sparkled like crazy. I’d worry less about the specs and more about how it looks.

Post # 5
408 posts
Helper bee

I think that the facets and the cut really can change the sparkle factor. I have a cushion cut pad that is very sparkly, but I did look at a much less expensive, shallow cut, garnet shade of pad that sparkled TONs more due to the round cut.

You can tell in this picture that the bottom stone (didn’t pick this one) was a sparkler!

Post # 6
1174 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2014

If you liked it…that’s all that matters! I had a marquise cut diamond that was cut shallow…it was a half a carat, but looked more .75ct because of the cut, but it was still beautiful and sparkled just as much as a deeper cut stone.


Post # 7
496 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: July 2014

make sure you take it out of the jewelry store lighting and outside.  anything will sparkle under those lights!  Just make sure you like it in natural lighting. I’m sure the jeweler will let you take it right outside the door if they are reputable.

Post # 8
1175 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: January 2015

Yes, it may still sparkle as any diamond would, but the difference between even a very good cut and an idea cut is huge. What is the actual cut grade? Who certified it? Frankly, a .88 diamond that faces up the size of a 1ct is way more than a “little shallow”. 


Post # 9
3010 posts
Sugar bee

Decide on getting sparkle rather than maximising size.  A dull diamond is merely a pebble.  Even a small sparkly diamond is a delight.

Look at the online sites such as Whiteflash, Good Old Gold, Brian Gavin and James Allan.  They are all reputable.

Choose an AGS or GIA excellent or ideal cut.  Get the best cut they sell.  Consider Hearts and Arrow excellent cuts.

Choose I, J, or K colour.  Most people cannot tell the difference between a D and an I coloured diamond once it’s set in a ring.

Choose VS2 or SI1 clarity.  You cannot tell the difference between a flawless diamond and a VS2 except under x10 magnification.  S1 flaws at the edge of a diamond can be hidden under a prong.

Choose the biggest diamond with the above attributes that you can get for your budget.  You could then have the diamond set in a ring setting of your choice. These online sites also sell pretty ring settings more inexpensively than the average jewellers.

We had a similar budget, bought the diamond online, had it set at a local jewellers, had the whole thing valued and found that the ring was worth about £1,100 ($1,500) more than we had paid out for the diamond, the setting and the diamond postage.  I’m in the UK and so this sum also had to include 20% import duty.

I have a beautiful bright and sparkly diamond.

I’m really pleased. 

Good luck. 

Post # 10
3108 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

A 0.88 facing up as 1 carat is really, really shallow. Make sure you’re seeing it in lots of different lights — jewelry store lights are designed to make EVERY diamond look good. You can get a really nice ring for 3-4k, and your dollar will go further if you shop online. I would recommend looking somewhere like James Allen where they provide pictures of all the stones and will provide light performance information on request. The Pricescope forum is really useful for finding the best possible ring/diamond on your budget.

Post # 12
2070 posts
Buzzing bee

@mxnikka:  I would go with as high a cut grade as possible, so no I would personally not go with that stone.

Post # 13
407 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: August 2014

@mxnikka:  What type of certification does this diamond come with?

I used the holloway cut advisor to help me weed out the good stones from the bad stones.


The lower the score the better, but you might want to you for something in the 1.5-2 range if you are looking for size. Anything under 2 is excellent. My diamond comes out at 1.4 and it is a little fireball of light. Even at night it is crazy sparkly! It well tell you where marks are being taken off as well. All the info you need is on the gia certificate.

Good luck and enjoy shopping! 

Post # 15
7802 posts
Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: February 1997

Run the numbers through the HCA, just to see where its angles put it. That said, many people really do prefer the look of a 60/60 stone, which is not considered ideal. As long as you are paying comparably less for the stone because it is not an excellent cut and you love the way it looks, it is fine. If you are paying the same price you would pay for a GIA certified excellent cut or AGS 0, then you are overpaying. Regardless of whether the jeweler himself is GIA certified, make sure the STONE is. He has a conflict of interest in being the seller, so don’t take his word for things. Get the certification, the angles, run it through the HCA and compare prices. With all of those things considered, if you love the stone and are getting a fair price (check the stats through Blue Nile or Whiteflash or Brian Gavin for similar stone prices), then go for it. Just don’t think the jeweler is giving you a miraculous deal, because they never are. Like the old saying goes, with diamonds you get what you pay for… or less.

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