(Closed) Hard Rock – Diamond alternatives

posted 8 years ago in Rings
  • poll: What "hard" alternatives are there to a diamond?

    Sapphire

    Ruby

    Moissanite

    Cubic zirconia (CZ)

    "Black Diamond"

    Topaz

    Emerald

    Alexandrite

    ...other (see comment)

  • Post # 47
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: September 2014

    @gemgirl6:  Actually, OP didn’t say that she didn’t want to pay the high price for a diamond. She was mainly interested in finding a conflict-free alternative. In a follow-up she posted that she didn’t like that companies like DeBeers inflate prices (and I think everyone would agree with that); however, she didn’t say she wasn’t willing to buy a diamond at all. She didn’t say that she didn’t want one. 

    Yes, moissanite is cheaper, but In My Humble Opinion I don’t think that necessarily makes them better than a diamond (I personally don’t like them and I wouldn’t buy one as a diamond alternative, because you can tell they aren’t diamonds). It’s really comes down to personal taste. I was offering another alternative.

    To OP, here is an article that pretty much sums up the reason I would NOT buy a moissanite if you’re looking for something close to a diamond: 

     

    http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Trouble-With-Moissanite&id=82481

     

    Post # 48
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: August 1997

    @CelticBeachBride:  No, I wasn’t saying that. I definitely agree with you that of course amoissanite is not better than diamond!  Cz and moissanite are both man made manufactured diamond simulants.

    However I did get the impression that OP was looking for cheaper alternatives (maybe wrong), thus my recommendation of Moissanite.

    I am a real gemstone girl myself however that being said, I am plannng on buying a moissy once the patent expires in 2015 and the price comes down! I want to examine it more closely and do some experiements.

    A coworker has a JTV.COM moissanite ring in a 2 carat diamond equivalent weight and it’s very pretty.

    Post # 49
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: September 2014

    @gemgirl6:  I think that its great if it’s what you like. I’m just in the camp that can tell the difference. I’ve NEVER seen a moissanite that didn’t have a green or grey tint to it. I’m also not a fan of the “disco ball” or “double-vision” effect they create. They just don’t look like diamonds.

    I would also NOT suggest doing a moissanite stone with a diamond pave band. Putting them side by side like that makes the differences even more visible. 

     

    Post # 50
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    Worker bee

    @CelticBeachBride:  That article was written by or from the perspective of Diamond nexus labs, so not really objective.

    Post # 51
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: May 2014

    @CelticBeachBride:  “Yes, moissanite is cheaper, but In My Humble Opinion I don’t think that necessarily makes them better than a diamond (I personally don’t like them and I wouldn’t buy one as a diamond alternative, because you can tell they aren’t diamonds).”

    You do realize this is a positive quality to someone who doesn’t want a diamond, right? Sounds like the OP isn’t looking for something she can pass off as a diamond, and she had mentioned cost a couple times, so I don’t see why moissanite would be a bad choice for her because it doesn’t pass for diamonds. 

    OP, I’m always happy to recommend moissanite to anyone with an open mind. My stone is so beautiful and behaves so vibrantly, that I would never trade it for a diamond even if cost and ethics weren’t an issue. You should really check it out in person, it’s captivating.

    (BUT if you’re still obsessed with the idea of a diamond and deep down that’s what you really want, don’t get a moissanite. I think it can be tempting to pass it off as a diamond if that’s what you really wanted, and I think that makes moissanite owners as a group look bad.)

    Post # 52
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    Honey bee

    @Taeyers:  “(BUT if you’re still obsessed with the idea of a diamond and deep down that’s what you really want, don’t get a moissanite. I think it can be tempting to pass it off as a diamond if that’s what you really wanted, and I think that makes moissanite owners as a group look bad.)”

    +1 but not because it makes moissanite owners look bad (I mean who really GAF outside of weddingbee), but because if you really want a diamond, the differences will be glaringly obvious and disappointing. It is a preference, and so you either like it or you don’t. 

    Post # 53
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: May 2014

    @alaha:  I have a question, and I hope it hasnt already been answered… Is your main goal to avoid contributing money to the mining/unethical aspect of the industry, or do you also want to avoid playing into the price inflation and other aspects? In other words, do you want to avoid being associated with the diamond industry as a whole, or do you just want your hands to be clean in the proverbial sense? 

    Post # 54
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: May 2014

    @BlondeMissMolly:  I agree with this too. Outside of Weddingbee world, it’s true that few people would care or gossip about what you pass off for what, but you will always be aware of the many differences between the stones. In fact, many features of moissanite that are sometimes considered negative (warmth, chamelion behavior, double-refracted facets) are not inherently bad, they’re just different from diamonds. Someone could reasonably prefer these characteristics, as many moissanite owners do, but people who prefer diamonds understandably dislike them. Just think it over carefully and be honest with yourself.

    Post # 55
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: August 2013

    @alaha:  All of those things are awesome alternatives. I got a black diamond with aquamarine and iolite side stones and I couldn’t be happier. 

    Post # 56
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    Blushing bee
    • Wedding: January 2014

    @abirdword:  +1  I love my lab-created gemstone!  I was not exactly happy with the idea of mining for gems, but I’d always wanted an emerald.  Luckily for me, my lab-created emerald is (in my opinion) more gorgeous than the “natural” ones!

    Post # 57
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: December 2016

    Hope all this hasn’t already been said… I just skimmed.

    BUT I think you need to do more research and consider your personal preferences.
    Do you have the money for something like natural Alexandrite, do you want something created in a lab or something that just is mined ethically.

    And I say do your research, because people are right, not EVERYTHING in that article is wrong but it is VERY BIASED and the author CLEARLY has an agence.

    I would also take Emeralds off your list. I did marketing for Emeralds in Colombia and from what people told me that mining process is VERY dangerous and corupt. Also I have seem Emeralds (which technically are hard) chip and break because of theri inclussions. Not my first choise for every day wear.

    Post # 58
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    564 posts
    Busy bee
    • Wedding: September 2014

    @Taeyers:  Yes, I do realize that would be a positive quality for someone who doesn’t want a diamond. However, OP did mention that she liked diamonds and was looking for a conflict-free alternative. I was also expressing MY personal opinion, and stating that I would not buy one, as I don’t like them. I’m entitled to express my opinion.  There’s no reason to get defensive or take that personally. It wasn’t directed at you or anyone else who owns one. 

     

    Post # 59
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: September 2014

    @MrsLuca:  Perhaps, but I was pointing out that those are the reasons that I don’t care for Moissanites. It was easier to post that link than to restate all the same points.  If you’d prefer a different source, here’s an article from Wired Magazine that says many of the same things: 

    http://www.wired.co.uk/magazine/archive/2013/07/how-to/spot-a-fake-diamond

    For the record though, just because there is some bias in the article, doesn’t mean it is wrong. My fiance is an aerospace engineer who works lenses and lasers. One of the materials he works with FREQUENTLY is silicon carbide (the material that moissanite is made of) on a regular basis, and he seconded EVERYTHING in that article. Those are also the reasons he did NOT buy me one! 

     

    Post # 60
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: May 2014

    @CelticBeachBride:  Oh gosh, no one is getting defensive, I don’t even know what I said to give you that impression… I was just confused about why you were giving gemgirl a hard time for suggesting moissanite to someone who already has an issue with the price of diamonds. Moissanite is clearly the best suggestion for her, being that she’s asking for a stone that is very hard and more economical. Yes, absolutely you’re welcome to your own opinion, but the thread was asking for recommendations for her. 

    Post # 61
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: September 2014

    @Taeyers:  Why is it so important to you that I agree with you (I won’t)? It seems like you’re trying awfully hard to get validation for your point on here. OP wanted options. You suggested Moissanites. I disagreed and pointed out why. I suggested an alternate. This back and forth should have ended there. 

    For the record, I won’t respond to any more threads on this board about Moissanites. I suggest you do the same. Drop this and don’t hijack the OP’s thread. 

     

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