(Closed) Has pregnancy (or technology) changed your opinion on….

posted 10 years ago in Babies
  • poll: Has your opinion on abortion changed with pregnancy?

    I was pro-choice however pregnancy made my view points sway to or towards being pro-life

    I was pro-life before and am now even more committed to being pro-life

    I was pro-choice and my pregnancy in no way changed that

    I have come to regret my own abortion and that is what changed my view to or towards being pro-life

    It's complicated and I'll explain

    I've never been pregnant but technology has made me question my pro-choice views

    I've never been pregnant and technology has not made my pro-choice views change

    I just like answering polls / other

    I used to be pro-life and now due to pregnancy or technology I'm pro-choice

  • Post # 378
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    Sugar Beekeeper
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    @KLP2010: We aren’t inflicting our morality on a child. We are inflicting it on a dividing ball of cells that can’t exist on its own.

    Our fundamental beliefs on when life begins are different, which makes the argument different all together.

    Post # 379
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    Honey bee

    I am staunchly pro-choice, and no amount of technology will ever change that, except perhaps one– if a fetus can be removed from the woman and grown somewhere else.

    I feel this way because no one (and not to get into the argument of whether a fetus is a “person” or not) is entitled to use another person’s body. Unless we as a society decide that our bodies are allowed to be used for other people’s good, like having people having to give up a kidney to save another’s life, then we can’t go around deeming some people (pregnant women) as having no say in how their bodies are used.

     

    Post # 380
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    Bee Keeper
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    @luckyprincess – The issue of “when life begins” is heavily debated. There are even numerous doctors (both MDs & PhDs) and scientists on both sides of the issue. In all reality, “when life begins” is not something that can be proven in any direction.

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    Helper bee

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    @Running Elley: I appreciate the tact that you approached this post with. However, the difference for me is that you enforcing your beliefs infringes on my rights as a living, breathing, self-sustaining human being. My beliefs and/or choices have absolutely zero direct affect on your life. So who are you to dictate what I do with my body – one of the only things in life that I get to have absolute control over? Who’s privacy is being invaded here?

    Post # 382
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    Buzzing bee
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    @Dsquared:  So, you don’t want your tax dollars to fund abortion, huh? Well, who do you think is going to pay for all these millions of unwanted babies that are forcefully brought to term?

    Honestly, people. Time to put on your critical thinking caps.  Most women that get abortions aren’t in a position to raise a child.  They are extremely likely to end up on welfare.  Unless, of course, mom is already on welfare, then according to Abbyful, she’s just screwed.  At least that unwanted, unadoptable fetus got brought to term though!  After it’s actually born it’s clearly no longer the pro-lifer’s concern.  

    I would like a ticket to the abbyful/cyndistar/KLP eutopian fantasyland, please.  Their sunshiny, rosy worldview is a lot simpler and idealistic than my own.  That’s probably because I spend 40+ hours a week in the same reality most of these women seeking abortions live in.  You know, the real world.

    Post # 383
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    Honey bee

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    @Dsquared: By your same argument (basically, that money is fungible), then the government is impermissibly funding churches and religious organizations because these organizations get both tax breaks (huge!) and funding to run emergency food and shelter programs. I don’t doubt that when a church or other religious organization are running these programs, there is proselytizing. 

    If Planned Parenthood shouldn’t get funding for non-abortion family planning services, religious organizations should not receive any type of government tax incentives or funding for certain community services. Right?

     

    Post # 384
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    Bee Keeper
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    @Dollygold:Well since I believe that a new life with rights begins at conception if I was okay with you having your choice on what to do with your body it would be depriving that child’s life of ANY choices. I don’t want to tell you what to do with your body, just like I don’t think that you should be able to choose what happens with that child’s life.

    Post # 385
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    Bumble bee
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    @Running Elley: But you realize thats a deeply personal, for many people, a religious belief? And that personal and religious beliefs should never coincide with the law?

    I know that you feel responsible for all of these “lives” that you feel are missing and deserved a chance. But can you not separate your personal beliefs from politics, in that you feel like you need to intervene in my personal life? Perhaps you are just stating your beliefs, and you don’t think it should be made illegal. But I consider those people to be pro-choice. I am not affecting your life with my decisions, so I should be left alone.

     

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    @KLP2010: Again, we’re at a crossroads. I am a follower of science, I do not romanticize DNA. There is no moral dilemma for me.

    Post # 386
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    Busy bee
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    I voted it’s complicated because it completely depends on the situation. If I was really young and not ready I probably would have wanted that option. But now that i’m older I would never consider it. Then there are issues such as rape that make me think pro-choice. It would have to be done very early in the pregnancy.

    Post # 387
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    Sugar Beekeeper
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    @arenyth: I’m a scientist – i’m with you. Dividing cells does not equal baby. I don’t believe in souls. This is so obvious to me that I get a headache reading this thread!

    Post # 388
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    Sugar Beekeeper
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    I’ve never been pregnant but I’m pro-choice and nothing will ever change that. 

    Post # 389
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    Bee Keeper
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    @arenyth:I’m going to be completely honest with you and tell you that I don’t really know how I feel about that either. I don’t think it should be legal just because on a personal level I find it devastating that it is legal to terminate another life. However, I do realize that personal opinion shouldn’t coincide with politics or the law. I just have a problem with it personally.

    I agree with a PP that said that this is really a have to agree to disagree issue because it’s impossible to come to any other mutual understanding when the basis of the two beliefs are so inherently opposite.

    Post # 390
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    Helper bee

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    @Running Elley: “I don’t want to tell you what to do with your body”

    Unfortunately, that is the basis for the pro-life cause though. Everything to do with your body is private property. If I genuinely believed that cutting your hair off was killing living thing should I have the right to prevent you from handling your body and DNA the way you want? Haircuts are all of a sudden illegal? Split ends for life? Even if you didn’t believe that? On a very basic level this is the same thing.

    There are lot’s of living, breathing children who are suffering right NOW that could definitely benefit from the amount of energy you pro-lifers put into dreaming about controlling other people’s bodies.

    Post # 391
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    Sugar bee
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    @Running Elley: I also appreciate the way you came into this thread.  I respect your views on the issue, and I don’t think there is a right or wrong side… However, I think the woman should have the right to choose,… You said:

    just like I don’t think that you should be able to choose what happens with that child’s life.”

    As the potential child’s PARENT they have that right to make decisions for that “life” (depending on when people consider it a life) according to the laws now the parent makes decisions for the “child” until they are 18 years old (sometimes 21 depending on the state).  Don’t you think the potenial parent should have that right to make that decision about their potential child’s future?

    ETA:  I think most of the women who get abortions do so from very UNSELFISH places and truly just want what is best for that child, and knowing they can’t provide for that child properly or whatever the reason, and adoption would be too traumatic/not an option that they truly feel that abortion is the BEST option for that child.

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