Post # 1
Ok, first, I’m not really sure if this is the place for this, but if it’s not please move.
So, I know there are a lot of Charters on the Hive. I’ve been reading about Charting for a while now, and am starting to want to take my IUD out and start charting. Darling Husband and I are TTA for about another year, but it seems like it might be the best way for my body to regulate itself, and for me to spot any problems I might have in advance so I at least know what we’re doing when we TTC.
Also, honestly, as I get a little older (I’m almost 26 now) I’ve come to lean toward making more natural choices. Honestly, my IUD is fine, I don’t have any problems on it or anything, but Charting seems like it’s really quite accurate so.. Um.. Why keep a trinket in my uterus if I don’t have to?
I spoke to Darling Husband about this, and while he obviously a) Wasn’t totally surprised and b) promised to look into it more, he seemed REALLY adverse to making the switch. Basically, he grew up in a Catholic community (I did not) and saw a lot of people who supposedly charted and ended up with a lot of children. He underlined that he trusts me to not change our timeline without him, but said he thinks that adds a “chance” that we could end up pregnant in the next year and he’s really uncomfortable with that. I swear, I think he actually used the phrase “Hocus Pocus”…
So any advice bees? I’m abroad so I’ve tried to buy TCOYF, but there isn’t a kindle/nook copy that I can find. Mostly what I’ve read is from FF and here at WB. I plan to buy it when we go back, but in the meantime are there any resources that he and I can look at in addition? Especially charting for TTA? Also, I feel like this is a decision I/we need to make by late June/Early July so I can have it removed (or not) at my next annual exam in the USA during our visit.
Have you charted to TTA? How long? Are you happy you did it? Do you know anyone who was actively charting to TTA that got preganant? The poll is Multiple answers allowed! Thank you so much!
Post # 3
@Mrs.LemonDrop: I have not charted TTA, but can I ask what kind of IUD you have? If it’s Paragard, I’m not sure, but I think it takes less time for your body to regulate than if it was a hormonal IUD… So you could wait until closer to the time of TTC to take it out? Also, I think that you could switch to something like Nuva Ring instead for a while. I ovulated my first cycle off of that.
ETA: I know numerous people who have used something other than hormonal BC TTA and got pregnant, to answer one of your questions! Sorry I’m not much help!
Post # 4
We are just starting to try charting to avoid- I went off the pill last month so haven’t actually used it but hope we can in the next month or two. From what i understand it can be really effective if you are really diligent and conservative. If you are happy with the iud I would prob wait until closer. I do like charting to actually see what’s going on though- like I was super nervous that it would take forever to get back on track and ovulated after the pill, but my first chart actually looks like I ovilater and it predicted when I’d get my period to within a day! The downside is we have to use other prevention methods until I know what I’m doing which kind of sucks. Also we are only waiting another three months before trying and would be fine with a surprise.
So I guess I’m happy I started doing this now but I don’t know if I’d want to do it for a year. I also was feeling kind of lousy on the pill and feel much better off it but you like your iud. Not sure if this helps at all!
Post # 5
Darling Husband and I are TTA and charting. IT IS WONDERFUL. We’ve been doing it for 4 months now and I love it! If you do not have a copy of TCOYF, I wouldn’t do it though. I make sure to check myself and the book is battered from me going back to use it as a reference. I also wouldn’t suggest TTA with charting unless you are hypervigilant. You also have to be aware that you’re still going to end up abstaining or using condoms for MORE than just a couple of days. You won’t know you’ve ovulated until AFTER the temp spike, so you end up abstaining or using condoms at first sign of any CF until 3 days after the temp spike. For some people, that may be too long and they “chance it”, which, IMO is how people might have an unplanned pregnancy.
Post # 6
I haven’t started charting for TTA yet but I have been doing a lot of research. Defnitetly buy the book and check out the forums on TCOYF. Also, a good website I have found for charting is Ova Ova, I like the interface a lot more than TCOYF. As enne1613 said, you need to be vigilant and from what I have read, women who are really TTA (some are childfree by choice but still chart) use condoms and/or abstinance until after they ovulate. The TTA forum on TCOYF is a really good resource.
Post # 7
I charted to TTA for years. In my previous relationship, we used it for about 4 years and used the rules in reverse to TTC my son. (Pregnant first cycle trying)
If we didn’t find out that my Darling Husband was sterile, we would have charted to TTA for years.
My advice is to get the book “Taking Charge of your Fertility” and take the first few months to get to know your signs. I loved the paper copy to be honest, it was something I kept around for years.
It takes a bit before getting the hang of it, and even though we are not TTA now, just waiting for IVF, I can still track my cycles but I just don’t temp.
Post # 8
Thanks for your input everyone. Although there isn’t a lot of responses, the poll is basically completely split multiple ways.
Yeah, I definitely plan to buy the book but I frankly don’t have access to buying it right now. (I’m in Afghanistan, I can’t just order it on Amazon). If we made this decision, it would basically be me reading everything I can get my hands on and then buying the book like right before I actually have my IUD out. I literally have a 10 day window in America this year and no particular plans for our next trip back.
I’m definitely vigilant about BC (I’ve never had unprotected sex while not on some form of birth control – ever) and I’ve been charting my CM just to see if I found it a big pain in the butt or not. I haven’t been temping because I didn’t want to freak out Darling Husband before we actually talked about it, I’m nearly positive I’m not ovulating anyway, and I haven’t had a period since I’ve started researching charting a few months ago. I was thinking that I’d start temping just to confirm that I’m not ovulating, but again, I have to wait for a period (which could be months if I don’t have my Mirena taken out)..
I guess part of what I’m wondering is whether people who have gotten pregnant while charting to TTA were really actually avoiding to the best of their ability and it just didn’t work for them, or if there was something else going on (i.e., they decided to “chance it” and it didn’t work out for them.)
Post # 9
Bump this thread cuz I’m curious about what other people would vote!
Post # 10
@Mrs.LemonDrop: As far as people getting pregnant while TTA and charting– honestly, I would GUESS that a lot of the people who are doing it to avoid are not being hyper vigilant and are more open to the possibility of a pregnancy. Once I get the hang of it, that’s how H and I will be– we’d like to wait a few more months, but I can see us being like, f*ck it let’s just go… So it would be really hard to get an accurate survey. A lot of Catholic web forums actually have a lot of information about it though, if you want to look somewhere else.
I do think if you track carefully for a few months and can clearly see when you ovulate and wait until after that every month, you have at least as good a chance of avoiding as with diligint condom use.
As far as your charting now, since Mirena does have some hormones, it probably won’t work until you have it removed. I found that frustrating while I was on the pill and trying to figure it out but what can you do?
Post # 11
@foodnerd81: Thanks. That’s sort of what I was thinking re: vigilance. I’m also up for a job that would actually have me away from Darling Husband for good chunks of time (unfortunately) so I also am not sure if it would really make much of a difference. I’m not EXACTLY sure how much travel it would be but the job is technically based in NYC with travel to Afghanistan (where we’re actually living ATM, and where Darling Husband works).
Interesting, they actually say that after about 4 years, about 75% of cycles are ovulatory on Mirena. I honestly don’t think I’m in that bracket (given that I REALLY rarely see AF). Weird eh?