Post # 31
Horseradish : Oh for the love of God, could we stop with all the posts chiding the OP for being politically incorrect? Or at least learn to discriminate between egregious insults and popularly used phrases? Chiding people for non-offenses like Irish twins and tramp stamp just encourages those people who actually do mean to be insulting by giving them evidence that it’s all just a bunch of nit picking. It becomes meaningless, which is far from the desired effect.
And it doesn’t make you look particularly woke or virtuous.
Post # 32
zzar45 : Really? You polled all of Ireland and they came back as a country and told you that no one uses that phrase?
OP– my sister and I are 3.5 years apart, so no personal experience.. but a good friend of mine just recently had 2 kids under the age of 1! In fact, she was afraid she was going to miss the birthday party of her 1 year old because she would be in labor. So far— it seems like mad chaos, but not unheard of–especially if you have a very hands on partner.
Post # 33
fromatoz : Really? You polled all of Ireland and they came back as a country and told you that no one uses that phrase?
Why do you have a problem with me pointing something out? There is a whole host of phrases that are actually Americanisms and not Irish phrases, this is just one. Source: am Irish, I don’t need to poll the entire country to know what is an American term.
I don’t care if people use it but it was a phrase coined to describe Irish immigrants, not something that actually originated in Ireland, I just thought all the people who thought it was an Irish term might find that interesting.
Post # 34
zzar45 : I didn’t think anyone was saying it originated from the Irish, just that the Irish generally aren’t offended by it, and even use it themselves these days.
Generally speaking, I think it’d be kind of odd to be offended over a term derrived from religious habits. There’s nothing shameful about being Catholic, or having lots of children. Sure, it’s a stereotype I guess, but not exactly a harmful one. Stigmatizing “Irish Twins” because you don’t want to be associated with Catholicism could almost be considered an insult to Catholics and/or people who choose and enjoy to have a lot of kids—as if there’s something wrong with that. Same reason “gay” stopping being an insult…because it’s not considered a bad thing, even if you don’t personally relate.
Post # 35
Horseradish : How about we stop looking for things to be offended about? Hmmm, how about that?
Post # 36
I didn’t say anyone was or should be offended by it, I was just posting in response to all the bees who thought it was an Irish phrase because the “Irish” people they knew used it and I was just mentioning it is one of many things people in the US think is Irish but it’s actually an Americanism.
Like “Patty’s Day” etc kiram :
Post # 37
zzar45 : I apologize for causing confusion, I know you weren’t offended. My second paragraph was just in response to that general conversation/the op that started it, not you specifically 🙂
Post # 38
Not me, but a friend had her boys just under a year apart. She remembers little except the joy she had and the pleasure the boys had at being so close.
It was a long time ago, mind, and she says doing it at 22 meant she was young and fit and not at all anxious about all the things she now worries abt with her grandkids.
I am English not Irish, but we too thought the term Irish twins meant kind of Irish quirky/different and not to do with Catholicism or lots of children.
Post # 39
Like French Fries aren’t French? zzar45 :
Post # 40
My oldest 2 children are 15 months apart. I had 2 under 2. It was hard but so worth it.
Congrats! My firstborn was born on Mother’s Day 2002.
Post # 41
- Wedding: November 2019 - Mint Springs Farm- Nashville, TN
I am a irish twin with my brother like he was literally being passed around at my first birthday party lol and we were best friengs growing up and he is still my rock!! I will say when he got serious about his now wife it caused tenstion between me and her because we were so close but everything smoothed over and I wouldnt trade it for the world!
Post # 42
I have a large family and we were all born really close together, 6 kids within 10 years. So we have a 3 sets of Irish twins in my family – my brother and I, two brothers, and two sisters.
Pros as a kid: I always had my brother to play with. We grew up together and totally get each other on most things. We had the same friends all throughout school. The 2 brothers and 2 sisters always played together, they also had the same sets of friends, and they all shared clothes.
Cons as a kid: You end up fighting more, because you spend more time together and are more like friends. My brother dated all of my friends, and I had to hear way too many personal things. It was hard to have one on one time with friends because your other sibling was friends with them as well. Sibling rivalry was definitely a thing.
Pros as an adult: We are all super close. We married people around the same ages and all get along like friends. We all go through life stages together so there’s always someone to ask for advice, no matter if you are older or younger. We all depend on each other. And we can still borrow each other’s clothes!
Cons as an adult: Really having trouble thinking of any. We fight sometimes, but never anything big, just a harsh comment and then an apology.
My extended family is large as well. We also had cousins our age growing up. We learned to share everything, to take care of each other, and to play nicely. The importance of family was drilled into our heads, and even though we are all different we genuinely enjoy each other’s company. It’s great and I wouldn’t have it any other way.
Post # 43
My sis and I are 11 months and 3 weeks apart.
🙂 We grew up extremely close and my mom said we had completely different personalities. My nana was the one that took care of us mostly, and so we see her as our second mom.
Post # 44
- Wedding: November 2019 - City, State
This thread makes me want to have kids close together when we decide to TTC haha! Congratulations OP! I hope your kiddos are the best of friends! I will note, my brother and I are 4 years apart, as is Fiance and his sister and we have awesome relationships with our siblings despite the bit of an age gap. BUT I did always want a sister close in age haha.
Post # 45
I know! It is all lovely and upbeat isn’t it ?