Post # 16
Did you apologize to him about your dog’s behaviour? It seems that he too may have expected (justified in my opinion) an apology.
Honestly, while it seems he may have over reacted, your dog initiated the sequence of events. Being surprise jumped isn’t fun. His push may have been more surprise driven then malicious. If you dog had never jumped, he would not have landed on his back.
You should be working harder/differently on making your dog not jump. If you dog cannot learn (doubtful, almost all dogs can learn) to not jump on people then it is your responsibility to make sure that doesn’t happen. Put him on a leash when guests get there, lock him away, whatever you have to do.
Post # 17
I have an 80lb black lab who has a jumping problem. She’s not aggressive she’s more the pet me pet me pet me type and jumps until she gets pet. When we have people come over, many people have been here and they all know her, I still put her back down the hallway behind our cat gate until she calms down. I love her but she’s an animal and I have to say we haven’t spent enough time training her NOT to jump up. I put her in the back because I feel like an a$$hole having my dog jump on people, and I don’t want them to get hurt. I wouldn’t expect anyone to apologize if that situation happened in my home, another reason I put her in the back.
Post # 18
MsJ2theZ: I don’t brush off the jumping. I always grab his coller and try to calm him and keep him from jumping but he also doesn’t jump often. As a bully, he’s wide and low to the ground so they don’t do the kind of frenzied jumping other dogs do. When we come in or have company, he mostly just barks, wiggles his body, wags his tail and acts excited. He does not and has never acted aggressively toward people.
At the time this happened, we had been inside for a couple minutes. I was first in the door so I paid attention to him and tried to calm his excitement. The boyfriend was walking back and forth in front of our couch and the dog was following him. As I said, I read the situation as them playing. While I might have misread the boyfriend’s actions the dog was not being aggressive. His tail was wagging and he was happy – he wasn’t barking or growling.
Also – this isn’t some kid we’re talking about – he’s a grown man in his 30’s.
stephee: I did apologize to him for the dog jumping. If he had merely shoved my dog away, I would not have expected him to apologize. But he overracted and could have caused my dog serious injury. Even though he wasn’t injured, I”m sure it hurt when he landed on his back and head on the floor and for that – the boyfriend should have apologized.
If this were a kid that accidentally hurt someone and they reacted by shoving them to the floor would you say the same thing?
lawyerchick13: The dog didn’t bite or nip or anything like that. If he hurt the boyfriend, it was by stepping on his foot or accidentally scratching his leg.
julies1949: Depending on whose coming over, I do. If they are a first time visitor or are likely to be made uncomfortable or hurt, I ask or just put the dog outside or in his crate. In this case and as I’ve said repeatedly, this guy has met, played with and interacted with my dog on several previous occasions. There was no reason for me to think he was uncomfortable with him.
Post # 19
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Zhabeego: The boyfriend was wrong to flip the dog over but honestly with as big as your pup is, you have to figure out how to control his habit of jumping or lock him up when company is over. I have a 60 pound dog and if he were to jump on someone unexpectedly he could knock them over or scratch them with his claws. If a guest gets injured by your dog then they could choose to sue you to pay for their medical bills to treat the injury. It’s my responsibility as a dog owner to protect my guests from injury from my dog so I worked really hard to train him not to jump. It also protects my dog because it reduces the chance that someone will hurt him in reaction to the bad behavior.
Post # 20
Zhabeego: get your dog trained just cause its your house it doesnt mean you cant get in trouble if your dog by accident hurts someone. Big dogs little dogs doesnt matter they should be trained, jumping at humans is not acceptable, no reason for you to be mad at this guy when your dog was misbehaving.
Post # 21
Zhabeego: The fact that he had played with the dog before doesn’t negate the fact that your dog has not been trained not to jump up on people.
Post # 22
My dog is my baby and I love him to death. That said, I would push him out of the way myself if he was jumping on someone. Allowing such a big dog to jump on anyone is absolutely unacceptable. It was your fault if your dog got hurt, and you’re the one who owes the boyfriend an apology. You’re lucky that the boyfriend wasn’t injured, and didn’t sue you.
It drives me nuts when people can’t understand that a trained dog isn’t an unloved dog. Your pup won’t be any less your baby if it’s trained to not jump on people.
Post # 23
julies1949: Why are you being so snotty about this?
We’re working on the jumping but as I’ve already said, its not a constant thing. He OCCASIONALLY jumps on people.
Prior to the flipping – the dog wasn’t jumping on anyone. He was excited and wanted to play and the boyfriend was walking back and forth quickly across the room like he WAS playing with the dog and that’s when the dog jumped up trying to catch the boyfriend.
I get its not pleasant to be jumped on by a big dog and its even less so if the dog accidentally hurts you. I don’t blame him for pushing the dog away and if that’s all it had been, I wouldn’t have been the least bit annoyed. But he didn’t do that – he flipped my dog on his back and could have really hurt him. Even if that wasn’t his intention, a gracious person would have apologized.
The dog’s poor behavior does not excuse his.
Post # 24
You can correct a dog without flipping it over onto its back. That’s ridiculous IMO.
Of course in a perfect world the dog should not be jumping up on people, but it happens. If this guy has been over before, played with the dog and was familiar with his behaviors, he shouldn’t have reacted the way he did. If he had an issue with the dog, he could say something. Maybe he’s one of those people who thinks they need to train everyone else’s dog with their old school scare tactics.
Post # 25
Zhabeego: Disagreeing with you is not being snotty.
You were/are trying to use the fact that he has played with the dog in the past to defend yourself against the fact that your dog has not been trained to jump up on people.
It’s certainly not the dog’s fault. Maybe you are in the process of training him- good for you. Until then, he should not be allowed around visitors unless you are wiling to accept responsibility for what he does.
Post # 26
What would have been an acceptable way of pushing your dog away though? If this is not a dog I know SUPER well I certainly wouldn’t be pushing their head/putting my hands anywhere near their mouth to get them off of me, and I would also know better than to bend down and reach to the neck or something for fear of being bitten. If a big dog jumped on me I would probably instinctively grab the paws because those are the first thing coming at me and push away. It doesn’t sound like this person intentionally flipped your dog over, it’s just what happened.
Post # 27
Zhabeego: ok, well sounds like the guy is just an out of line asshole honestly lol. and even if your dog WAS being crazy, he still owed you an apology. Idk why I assumed he was really youNg. Not that that makes it ok
Post # 28
I like dogs, but really big dogs do make me a little uneasy. Especially my Fiance. If a big dog jumped up on him and it wasn’t obvious it was in a playful way, he would have reacted the same way about it.
And honestly, an 80 pound dog shouldn’t be jumping up on people. I would probably fall over. I could only imagine what my fiancé would do if an 80 pound dog jumped up at me.
Post # 29
He most likely didnt mean to. It sounds like he shoved the dog away because the dog was all up in his face. I would have grabbed the dogs paws to and if he accidently flipped then thats what happened even if it was unintentional. Maybe he won’t continue to jump after that… If you can’t control your dog don’t have him around guests.
Post # 30
Also I doubt he meant to flip him on his back. He reacted because he was concerned about his safety and probably didn’t realize the amount of force he used.