Post # 1
This post is stemmed by the fact that someone very close to me is ill. We live in Canada, where health care is “free” (except that it isn’t, because that’s what taxes are for). We have been waiting months for a specialist (which is very common and even, dare I say, standard). I am incredibly frustrated and feel like with all the waiting, this person could end up dying (there are so many stories like this). I really want to cross the border and pay a doctor to see this person within a reasonable timeframe.
I wish the option existed in Canada. Sure, “free” health care is great (if you like waiting for hours in the ER, waiting months for a specialist, and getting substandard care in many, many instances). But I also think private health care has benefits too and I would prefer a system that encompassed both. The free version can be there for those who are comfortable waiting, and those who are willing to pay would have the option closer to home.
What have your health care experiences been like? What system are you a part of?
Post # 3
Considering that I have to pay $250 twice a month for private health care, public health care is sounding really good to me right now 🙁
Post # 4
- Wedding: August 2013 - Rocky Mountains USA
Health care in the US is prohibitively expensive for most people. Like, thousands and thousands and thousands (or more!) of dollars for a single hospital visit.
Neither system is perfect by far, but man, so many people here literally cannot afford to get the basic health care they need. Hopefully Obamacare will help out a little.
Post # 5
I’m in Canada so same system as yourself and yes it gets frustrating waiting for services although I haven’t really experienced that much substandard care. I saw one friend’s family dealing with cancer and it was nice that they didn’t end up broke, and his standard of care was maybe not the most amazing in the world but it was good enough. I do think that a better system is a combination of both but with some limitations so as we don’t suffer brain drain/resource reduction from the public sector.
Post # 6
If I had my way, healthcare would be public, but there would also be a private, non-insurance involved market where you can just pay the doctors directly.
Post # 7
@MrsPanda99: I do not want a system like Canada. I realize, I will likely get flamed from now until kingdom come over it, but I don’t. I have a few friends in Canada. One couldn’t get into an OB until 22 weeks pregnant. One spent 8 months waiting for desperately needed treatment for bipolar disorder (the eventual diagnosis). I don’t want to live like that. I’m more than willing to pay for my health. I was uninsured for years so I’m quite aware of what it costs.
Post # 8
@stuckinwonderland: I’m with you on that….
People often confuse the low price of drugs in Canada as meaning that having public healthcare as awesometastic.
but for me…I don’t know. I keep looking at the cons of the whole deal.
Post # 9
US technically does have a mixed system. Health care reform is my life’s work and I think there needs to be a bigger push for the industry to be in the free market, like any other consumer product. It would yield higher accountability for quality and cost. But, no system is perfect, so we do the best we can with what we have. Ultimately, reform (of the US system) needs to encompass changes by physicians, insurers and consumers!
Post # 10
@MrsPanda99: That option does exist in Canada. I know a friend who had a undiagnosed but severe gastrointestinal disease that made it very difficult for them to eat without getting sick. They were on a waiting list for a specialist, but instead they spent about $4000 to go to a private clinic that is staffed with doctors in many fields. They did a huge number of tests over the span of a week and were able to diagnose and treat her illness.
Search for private clinics in your city – you may be able to call them and ask if they staff a specialist or can bring in one that can treat you.
Of course, it may be less costly if you do the same in the USA.
P.S. I voted a combination, becuase I think healthcare should be public – people should have access to the doctor and hospital without fear of the cost. BUT..I think that if people are willing and capable of paying extra for additional private care or priority service (so seeing a specialist in a week instead of 10 months), by all means. I think that’s completely fair. We do have this option in Canada though (Alberta, at least), so I’m happy with what we have.
Post # 11
It shouldn’t be solely private. It’s ridiculous that the poor suffer and in some cases die because of the cost of basic medical care. It was rare that I went to the doctor as a child because we simply couldn’t afford it. We had to wait until my medical needs became urgent before seeing a doctor. No one should have to live like that.
I understand the frustration of long waits, but I don’t understand how anyone can think it’s okay to have only private healthcare. Combination is great – if you have the money and don’t like the wait, then spend away. But for those of us who simply cannot afford it otherwise… well, we need public healthcare.
Post # 12
- Wedding: March 2012 - Pelican Grand Beach Resort
@MrsPanda99: For most of us in the US, we wouldn’t be able to afford to see that specialist, even if we have insurance.
ETA: the only time I’ve been to the ER, I waited 8 hours.
Post # 13
@stuckinwonderland: I’m glad that you actually realize that. I get SO tired of everyone telling me how lucky I am to live in Canada and that health care is free. We are so highly taxed that health care is far from free. If I have to pay anyway, I might as well choose my own doctor and get in to see him or her quickly. I am absolutely willing to pay for my health too – without that, you really do have nothing.
@lolot: I guess the grass isn’t always greener. I am just jealous that you have options, whereas I feel very limited by what’s available here (and how long I have to wait for it). My friend had a skin condition before and had to wait 8 months to see a derm. By the time she got there, the condition had vanished. He said, come back when it happens again (oh, so in another 8 months?)
@JaneyDcat: Canada’s system is far from awesome, lol. I have heard the UK does public health care well, but I don’t have enough knowledge about it to comment.
@SoupyCat: That’s the exact system that I want.
Post # 14
@crystalrae: Alberta has that option?! Okay, I’m moving.
Post # 15
Americans pay taxes too…but what do we get for it? Good public healthcare? Nope. Good public schools? Nope. Tons of nuclear weapons and aggressive wars for resources that I don’t agree with? Yeppers. Awesome.
Post # 16
@mrsSonthebeach: I guess I don’t really have a solid understanding of how much it costs. But whatever it costs, I would find a way to pay for it rather than see someone I love die (which I feel is happening where I live now…wait, wait, wait, and find out it’s too late).