(Closed) Heartbroken… my venue won't allow my baker and my wedding is in 3 months.

posted 4 years ago in Food
Post # 16
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Bumble bee

I would maybe see if your venue would compromise and let you sign some sort of liability waiver where you (or your baker) would agree to take on the liability were anything to happen. I’m making my own cake and luckily my venue is okay with it, but they do want me to post a sign saying that I made it. Which is fine–more props for me 🙂 lol kidding, I’m not that vain. But the sign is cute. 

Long term, it might be in this baker’s best interest to get licensed anyway if this restriction is common in your area. Have you talked to her about it directly? If you are planning to go the “not telling the venue” route, you definitely need to be upfront with your baker. 

Post # 17
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: July 2016

I think it’s a bit of an issue that she didn’t mention the license requirement when you were discussing the cake/cupcakes with her. Even if it’s in the packet, most venue coordinators make sure that people are aware of things like that. I plan events for my job and I haven’t ever meet with a venue coordinator that didnt make sure that I knew about requirements like that.

Post # 18
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2016

I would see what the local higher-end grocery stores offer.  Where do you live?  If you’re in the southeast, Publix makes awesome cakes.  I’m sure other good grocery stores do too.  I understand why you’re bummed, but the venue is protecting their own liability.  

And, just to respond to some of the suggestions by PP:  rules for licensing vary fairly dramatically state by state.  In NC, for example, anyone running a home-based food business – catering or bakery, for example – must use commercial grade appliances and have a separate entrance to their commercial kitchen.  So you can’t use your home’s kitchen.  It’s much more complicated than just paying some low fee.   Also, in NC you can’t waive liability.  

Post # 19
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: July 2016

Also, just a thought…if you do decide on trying to sneak the cake by the venue, you could have some cupcakes made somewhere else that IS licensed. Pick up both the cake and cupcakes yourself and the venue would probably assume the same place made them 😉 It’s still risky though…

Post # 22
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2012

herecomesthebride625:  She needs to look up the “cottage food laws” for your state. It will vary from state to state. Cottage food law is a law that allows you to make some foods from a home kitchen. She should look up the regulations that go along with it, like license requirements and health inspections. There’s just a lot of crap (for lack of a better word) that comes with running a legal business – this is that kind of stuff. Most of the time people doing it as a hobby quickly realize that becoming a legal business comes with a lot of costs and the lower rates they used to charge doing it as a side job aren’t enough to sustain their business. They either have two choices…raise their prices or just stop altogether. 

LoveAndLaughter:  I’m not sure what you’re getting at. Making cakes as a hobby and giving them to someone, totally fine. The second you start accepting payment for your goods/services you are a business and should be paying taxes on it (thus needing a business license, even if you are a small business operating as a sole proprietor). Likewise, *especially* in any kind of food service you’d be insane to be operating without a license and insurance. Serving food is completely different than making and selling dresses on etsy. You make someone sick with your food and it’s a major lawsuit. Unfortunately we live in a litigious society and if something were to happen people will drag anyone and everyone into a lawsuit….most venues are not willing to take those kinds of chances.

Post # 24
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Bumble bee

herecomesthebride625:  OMG I think we are date twins AND state twins! I actually looked into Wisconsin cottage food laws a while back when considering opening an Etsy shop to sell baked goods. Wisconsin only allows selling goods prepared in a home kitchen at farmers markets, and these goods are limited to canned goods such as pickles. So technically, everything your baker is selling out of her home kitchen is “illegal”. I think I’m getting away with my homemade cake because I’m not technically selling it. 

Post # 25
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Helper bee

starfish0116: I’m saying that you can be a licensed home food establishment and not have to follow all the same rules/laws. 

Post # 27
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: July 2016

herecomesthebride625:  Our venue has a rule against any food/drink being brought in other than wedding cake, but I asked them about a smores bar and he said it was fine. So they obviously bend the rules at times.

But definitely the fact that the venue coordinator didn’t mention anything to you when discussing the cake could give you an advantage if you try to negotiate with her. It’s her responsibility to make sure you know about things like that. I mean honestly, what if she never mentioned anything and you hadn’t seen it in the handbook and your baker had shown up the day of with the cake and was told it wasn’t allowed? Big oops on her part!!

  • This reply was modified 3 years, 6 months ago by  rebeccasum.
Post # 28
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: October 2016 - Wedgewood Las Vegas

Just a word of caution, especially to those PP supporting the ‘sneaking’ or ‘lying’ to the venue options….It might very well end up with the venue cancelling on the bride. It’s just not worth it. 

Honestly, the venue is only protecting itself by requiring vendors to have all the proper licenses.

And even if they didn’t verbally mention it during your venue meeting, it’s likely written in the contract.

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