(Closed) Heirloom diamond vs. Moissanite?

posted 7 years ago in Rings
Post # 2
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: January 2000

Look carefully at the qualtiy of each family stone because who knows, perhaps they are not nice ones.

My personal opinion is: princess cuts are faddish and won’t stand the test of time.

If that 1.25c RB gem is a nice one, I would go for it. But I think moissy is pretty, too, got nothing against it. I like the disco ball behavior of moissy.

I’m not entirely certain that sourcing a vintage stone removes all of the environmental/human issues associated with it. I really don’t know! These things do not concern me. So as an outsider would I think that you are a hypocrite? hmmm, maybe, a little.   🙂 But your FI’s fondness for using his family’s ring would mitigate that opinion.  🙂

So my decisions tree is:

Go for the big diamond only IF it is a nice one. Quality counts in the long run.

If not, get the moissy.

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Post # 3
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Blushing bee

I would do ALL THREE! 😀 just kidding. Ha, or am I? I don’t know. I tend to somehow outgrow my e-rings. My poor husband. Good luck. I just got a moissy three days ago and am so in love with it I’m on the site flashing it around. But, if I had a huge diamond, I would be just as happy with it. You just need to look at them in person and I think you’ll have a good idea. Maybe it’s a non-issue! Maybe they’re really bad quality and you’ll see it and go YUCK. Good luck!

Post # 4
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: October 2017

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owlette22:  having looked into this myself I understand your concern. Moissanite isn’t any more “moral” than a diamond, the stone is made in US but cut faceted in Asia China. Some moissy jewelry is assembled in poor countries Mexico India China The moissy manufacturing process has environmental issues and  jewelers metals gold have issues.

 Used is a better bet.

Post # 5
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: November 1999

If the round cut is nice, i.e. no chips or obvious inclusions, I think you should seriously consider it. There’s something special about an heirloom. You can always get a moissanite rhr. And the blood diamond argument doesn’t sway me a bit, in fact the holier-than-thou attitude of some people is ridiculous. Most diamonds out there are ethically sourced, with only a small margin comprising diamonds of questionable provenance. And everyone owns items that involved the exploitation of others, it’s a very sad fact of life.

Post # 6
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: February 2012

If I were happy with the look of the round brilliant diamond (1.25ct) then it would win hands down. Princess cuts are lovely but not for everyone. Moissanite is beautiful and shoots off all sorts of colours but I worry about recent reports of an “oil-slick” type of discoloration. There is a fix, but you wouldn’t have to worry if you had a diamond.

It is such a personal choice and it’s difficult to say for sure what you will be happy with. Go with your heart.

Post # 7
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: February 1997

If it were simply a cartel demanding whatever price for a product that no one wanted or that no one considered valuable, then no one would pay it and the product wouldn’t sell. But diamonds have sold for their going price, more or less, for many years, and (new) they generally get more and more expensive. I’m not sure where this cartel idea comes from, since DeBeers has been broken up and people STILL continue to pay for diamonds. NO consumer goods, including clothing, cars, ANY jewelry, technology or anything else is worth what we pay for it, yet you don’t see people making videos and online rants about how their iphone totally isn’t worth it or how Chevrolet is a cartel (oligopoly more like it). I find it ridiculous.

However, moissanite is a different material with different properties. What it ultimately should come down to is what you enjoy looking at. Many people prefer the sparkle and refraction of a moissanite, and in that case, moissanite is unquestionably the right ring for them. For people who would want a diamond but choose moissanite for some other reason? Well, they might come to love it or they might always be slightly dissatisfied. Only you can judge how you truly feel, and you might not really know until you compare both in person. 

Post # 8
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2015

If ethics and impact are your concern (not to mention sentiment or $$) a family ring is the obvious choice. 

Moissy is still finished overseas. Metal is still mined. The lowest impact item is the family ring, if you’d still rather your dream that’s one thing, no judgement from me. But it’s not realistic to claim it’s because of ethics!

Post # 9
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Honey bee

you could melt the metal down to make a new ring and have the diamond reset in your new setting

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Post # 10
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Bee Keeper

I agree with PP about choosing the heirloom diamond. The heirloom diamond has already been extracted, and it is part of your future FI’s family, a quality that is priceless. It would probably be less expensive to use the already existing heirloom too. 

Post # 11
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2012

The posters who are saying moissanite and diamonds are equally ethical have obviously never met a child who has been forced into an army of other children because of diamonds. There may be ethical concerns with all jewelry but not all concerns are equally unethical: it’s been clearly established that diamonds have a special set of problems that are far worse than any associated with lab grown gems. There are no child soldiers killing because of moissanite. As you said you’re interested in moissy for ethical reasons, you’re probably somewhat aware of these facts, and I mention them only because you raised ethics as a concern for you having a diamond ring. You’re right to be concerned.

If I were in your position, I would go for the original ring you designed. I prefer moissy to diamonds for very many reasons (ethics being only one of them), and I’d feel more comfortable knowing that no one died for my engagement ring, even if the death took place before I was born. I don’t really understand how family diamonds are considered more ethical — a bloody stone is still bloody a generation later, right? Also it sounds like neither of the diamonds are the shape you wanted, and you should have a style you love above all others.

Post # 12
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: December 2014 - Maui

I would choose the diamond. It has more sentimental value.

Post # 13
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2015

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valintine:  less than 1% of diamonds are from conflict countries. There are many verified mines with humane conditions, that trade through UN approved, legitimate channels that bring billions of dollars of commerce and jobs to impoverished countries. That fund free education for children and HIV support/clinics (Botswana, Namibia, S. Africa in particular), that employ 100s of thousands of locals. There are vertically integrated jewelry companies that go way beyond the Kimberly process- who own their mines, cutting/polishing/production facilities as well as retail stores to insure this. 

You are right to be concerned of course but not all diamonds support conflict. And if stopping the demand for diamonds is your goal, a diamond simulant certainly isn’t going to help that! 

More on Botswana  http://www.brilliantearth.com/Botswana-diamonds/

Post # 14
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: October 2014

I would consider the round brilliant diamond if it were me, I don’t like Princess cut stones.  When you say have the stone reset, is it a loose diamond or would you change the ring?  I think changing the setting of an heirloom ring takes away part of it’s specialness, so if I didn’t like the original setting for it I would go with the Moissanite ring you had made.

Post # 15
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Helper bee

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doberman:  Thank you!! I’m so sick of that attitude where people “will not support diamonds because they’re soooooo unethical” while they are typing on a device made overseas and wearing clothes and sneakers made in a third world country by some child in deplorable conditions. Look around you at all the things you own that wasn’t made “ethically” including your iphone that was made by a poor Chinese worker who works 16 hours straight with no actual break or basic worker’s rights. 

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