(Closed) Herkimer Diamonds. Any bees have experience with them?

posted 5 years ago in Rings
Post # 3
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: July 2013

I saw them on etsy, and to me they don’t seem very durable or sparkly. I am weary of them because the people who own the mine where they things come from don’t give almost ANY info on them. I don’t think I’d use something with so little background info for my e-ring.

Particularly when moissanite is so available, affordable, and reputable.

Post # 4
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: May 2014

SO and I ordered one for me for a christmas gift just to see what it’s like. I will post a follow up post when I get it!

Post # 5
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: February 2011

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herkimer_diamond

It sounds like a neat stone, especially if you’re into healing properties. It would probably sparkle like crazy if you had some rough custom-cut.

 @ccantics:  I’ll be interested to see your pics when you post them!

 

Here’s a pic from Etsy.

Post # 6
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: March 1996

I think they’re beautiful.

Post # 7
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Helper bee

I’ve gone to Herkimer, NY, and mined them myself! They are double-terminated quartz that come out of the ground already faceted with 18 facets each. Sometimes people cut them with diamond cuts, but I think their beauty lies in their natural facets. I would be wary of using one in a ring though, because quartz is soft and will scratch up easy in a ring or bracelet. It looks like in that ring it is just being used as an inexpensive diamond stimulant instead of highlighting their natural shap and beauty.

Post # 8
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: February 2011

@Kat:  They are double terminated quartz crystals – “A double terminated crystal is a crystal with two naturally faceted ends. It is a rarer form of crystal as it forms free-floating in pockets of clay, rather than on one side of a stone.”Apparently they naturally have 18 facets.

“Because of the gem stone’s clarity, natural facets, and double termination (points at both ends), these crystals are known to many as Herkimer Diamonds.”

People have been using quartz in jewelry for ages without problems. Quartz is a 7 on the Mohs, so that would be something to consider.

There is background info on these stones with just a quick Google search.

I’m not sure how moissanite came into play with this discussion.

Post # 9
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: December 2014

@starla:  I would imagine because both can be considered to be colorless stones that can be used as diamond alternatives.

Post # 10
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: February 2011

@Dialysate:  I understand that, but the OP wasn’t asking about moissanite or wondering how moissanite compares to Herkimer diamonds. Personally, if someone is looking at such a white/clear stone as crystal, I wouldn’t recommend moissy as an alternative because of the color it can show.

Post # 11
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: July 2013

@starla:  I brought it up because my back story is that I actually came to find moissanite because I intially was considering crystal for my engagement ring.

I now have an OEC Amora, which you know, and it certainly doesn’t show enough color for me to be turned off by it, even though I was intially looking to buy a colorless crystal.

The OP said this type of crystal was supposed to sparkle like a diamond, and moissanite has a lot of sparkle, so I thought it would be something to consider.

@Dialysate:  Yep, that was exactly why I brought it up.

 

 

Post # 12
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: May 2014

@Dialysate:  

@Kat:  

@starla:  

 

I wouldn’t be worried about the color aspect, so much as the price aspect. Granted, my e-ring has an Asha center, which is more than a Herkimer, but moissanite definately trumps them all on price.

Post # 13
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Bumble bee

I’ve owned some hermikers in the past. They are pretty for quartz, but they don’t have the same refractive qualities you would find in moissy or diamonds. 

Frankly, to my eye they didn’t show any rainbows. Unless you manage to get a crystal that has a “rainbow” in it, it’s like an inclusion kind of. Sort of like a mini prisim inside the stone. Thats the only way you’ll get rainbow sparkles from it.

 

Post # 14
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: February 2011

@Kat:  I’m glad you’re thrilled with your stone. I’ve commented many times on its beauty. I just don’t consider moissanite to be an alternative to quartz crystal, cost and looks-wise.

Post # 15
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Bumble bee

Though it WOULD be a pretty great story if you went and found a pretty stone, like some quartz “mines” you can go and hunt your own stone. I always thought that would be fun!

Post # 16
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: July 2013

@starla:  Thank you.

However, moissanite was, in fact, a good crystal alternative for me, so I was just sharing my opinion with the OP since I come from a similar situation having first considered crystal myself.

 

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