(Closed) Homeopathy results in death of a child

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Post # 62
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Bumble bee
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@AB Bride:  thanks for clarifying. homeopathy is total bunk, I just have to roll my eyes when I hear people talking about using it.

I do believe that you can get some good (or in some cases bad) results from herbal remedies, but a person should definitely consult their doctor about it! just because it’s natural does not mean it’s not dangerous.

Post # 63
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Sugar bee
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I have been using homeopathy for over two decades. It does indeed work. However it is a tricky form of medicine and except for acute prescribing (first aid), I rely upon a professional. I use it a lot not only with humans, but my animals as well. Often they have no idea they are being dosed, so no placebo effect. I have pictures of several cases where Western medicine was tried and FAILED before I turned to homeopathy and the condition was cured.

That being said, I will use antibiotics or go to the hospital as needed. My newest rescue kitten is currently on antibiotics because she needed clearing up of her infection pronto. As a Canadian homeopath once told me – sometimes disease is healed with a caress (homeopathy) and sometimes a fist is needed (Western medicine). I am quite sure the media will be all over this, too bad they will not be so hot about the thousands of children who die from pharmaceuticals.

Homeopathy is the number one form of medicine used in the world.

Post # 65
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Bumble bee
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This stresses me out, because I also live in Alberta and it’s not cheap to go that Naturopath/Holistic route which is what I did in the fall. I had a skin rash that was repeatedly misdiagnosed as eczema, and frustrated, I sought out natural help.

I spent a lot of time and money with a Naturopath and my symptoms got worse fast, and she kept saying ‘it’s a food allergy, if you’re patient we’ll get through this together”. I saw her weekly for Acupuncture and I eliminated everything from my diet. The rash ended up spreading from two small spots on my arms and neck to my entire front torso, both of my arms and my face. I went to the ER because I hadn’t slept in two weeks and I honestly thought I was dying I was in so much pain. He gave me prednisone, which i told my naturopath and she insisted on charging me a large amount of money for a food allergy test… do not get blood work done on prednisone, it masks or skews the results. She did not tell me this, and continued to insist it was a food allergy and that i had a tendency of being ‘too emotional’. (of course I’m emotional, I’m in god awful pain, and I’m getting 20-30 minutes of sleep on a good night…!)

My skin kept getting worse and worse, and clear liquid would seep from it. 

I gave in and  went back to see a medical doctor who gave me a round of antibiotics for a strep/staph skin infection, and bam 10 days later most of my skin cleared up. After two rounds of anbti biotics, I’m sitting here with clear skin, 3 weeks after my antibiotics are done. I was told if I had waited much longer, there was an extremely high risk of the infection getting into my blood (it was deep in my skin layers hence the long antibiotics) and affecting my organ function, if not killing me. How much that ‘much longer is’ who knows… 

Even after informing her that it was a bacterial infection, she is STILL is hung up on the food allergy thing! She also charged me to get a blood test done, and hasn’t gotten back to me about the results, although I had it done at the same time I had bloodwork done for my family doctor, and I got those results WEEKS ago. The difference is I have to pay 140.00 to see her to discuss my results, so I’d like for her to let me know they are in, so that I can only waste money one last time to see her.

Either way. I still believe there is a place to homeopathy/natural medicine, but I think that people need to be open to both. There’s going to be something Natural Medicine can’t do, and my naturopath couldn’t make a diagnosis. I saw 6 medical doctors 4 said ezcema and one said allergic reaction, before the last gave me anti-biotics, so Western Medicine doesn’t always hit it out of the park on the first try either. Err with caution people, its your health and what learned is that no one cares as much as you do. 

Post # 66
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Sugar Beekeeper
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@mu_t:  I’m sorry but, “i don’t believe antibiotics are the be all and end all either. i try to avoid them as much as possible,” does not make medical sense.*

YES, if you have strep throat (a bacterial infection – that doctors can diagnose by taking a throat swab and looking for bacteria), then YES, absolutely antibiotics are the “end all be all.” For viruses, yes – antibiotics do not work, that’s why we have vaccinations. Cancer? Yes – antibiotics do wo not work, that’s why we have chemo and radiation and are developing gene therapy.

 

If this mother would’ve simply taken her child to the doctor, the dr. could have easily diagnosed his strep throat, prescribed a mild antibiotic, and this child would be alive today.

 

*Studies have shown that certain bacteria will become resistant to antibiotics. In this case, a cocktail and higher diagnose of antibiotics will easily cure strep throat.

 

Post # 67
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Sugar Beekeeper
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@Claire324:  Absolutely, convential medicine has a LONG way to go. Specifically, no one can really predict what will happen in a certain individual’s body, since everyone’s genes, protein expression, allergies, and metabolism differ greatly. That’s why there are clinical trials, to try and figure out the percentage of people that will experience side effects from a certain treatmen. 

However, deaths resulting form convential medicine do not go unnoticed. Scientists like myself are trying really, really hard to better healthcare, lives, familes… humanity. We want to save lives. Well at least I do… I’m not in it for the money. I’m in it for the hope, the long nights, the breakthroughs, and (science willing) the outcomes. My family has experienced a lot of “genetic and medical misfortune.” 

So yes, while I do agree that not always will the medical and scientific community get it right, at least they are dedicating their lives to finding a cure: the research, the planning, the time, the money, the perserverance – that has a basis in scientific fact, is scientifically proven, clinically approved, and FDA regulated.  

Post # 68
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Buzzing bee
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@FutureDrAtkins:  aiya, i can’t win in this thread! i am simply saying that i try not to take antibiotics if it can be helped. this year i was intensely sick for months. i didn’t live near my family doctor so i was going to walk in clinics… and they were all prescribing antibiotics. i was blindly taking them. 3 months later, i go to the ER and discover that it is a chest infection – no wonder the antiobiotics didn’t work. if my family doctor prescribed me antibiotics, i would trust her 1000% because i feel she knows what’s up – a walk in clinic doctor who listens to my chest for 2 seconds and then suggests antibiotics… no, i’m gonna avoid that from now. i am not a medical professional by any stretch of the imagination obviously. i was simply saying i think there are benefits to both western & traditional medicine and i think each can play a role if people are smart about it.  honestly, i lean towards conventional doctors MUCH MORE but i was trying not to ruffle any feathers by offending those who practice natural medicine. sheesh.

Post # 69
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Sugar Beekeeper
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@mu_t:  Sorry, I was a bit tipsy when I wrote my response! I did not mean to come off as rude or patronizing at all!! My apologizes. I agree, I can see benefits to both… and of course there is always the placebo effect that is definitely real. 

I’m sorry you had a bad experience at a clinic – I have too in the past. And yes, some doctors are very quick with their scripts to just dole out antibiotics because they’re cheap and usually (but not always) respiratory infections stem from a bacterial infection.

Post # 70
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Buzzing bee

@AB Bride:  This is so incredibly sad. 

I think a lot of people mistake homeopathy with alternative medicine, but like you pointed out those two aren’t technically the same. 

Post # 71
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Sugar bee
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Like I said before, homeopathy is the number one form of medicine in the world. And there have been studies on animals (human ones and non-human ones) that have shown it does work. Especially in several British Medical Journals. It is heavily used in Germany, India, and Britain – to name a few places. I have proven to my own satisfaction that there is no placebo effect as my animals rarely know that they are being dosed as I spike their drinking water with the remedy.  I have observed excellent results in cases like URIs (mild cases), UTIs, ringworm, post-surgical complications, diarrhea, sprained muscles, etc. Our newest rescue kitten is getting antibiotics as the situation warrants it. He is also getting a remedy in-between doses to help with discomfort.

That being said, there are times when antibiotics are indeed called for. If I was that Mother, I would have given antibiotics AND homeopathic remedies in-between antibiotic doses to support the healing process.

As for the dilution factor, physics has demonstrated that water molecules do indeed have a type of memory – this is the basis of homeopathic dilution.

I do not mean this in any sort of derogatory way, but sometimes it blows my mind as to how narrow-minded people can be when anything is outside the realm of crap mainstream media and the government feeds us.

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