- 6 years ago
Have you put it back on after Alterations? How did you feel it looked on you?
Have you put it back on after Alterations? How did you feel it looked on you?
Did you want to keep the sample gown as-is, with the high lace? I’m confused about what you thought the shop was going to do in the first place, or what you wanted them to do.
From what you’ve written, I don’t see where the miscommunication was, unless you told them that you didn’t want them to alter the sample gown like what you originally ordered, and they went ahead and did that anyway? If you did want them to alter the way that lace applique sits, they did do it, and they did it wonderfully. I’m not understanding how that it isn’t what you ordered, unless I missed something in your original post.
EDIT: I can see that it might be a little unsettling to not have any heads-up that they were about to start alterations and have you give the go ahead, but I’m sure the bridal shop thought that you had discussed what you wanted, they talked to the seamstresses, and the seamstress was like, dude thats an easy job, I can get that done no problem, and then they just went ahead and did it based on what you discussed (about moving the applique down, but looking natural) – to me, it looks perfectly fine, and if I saw this gown it wouldnt cross my mind that it was supposed to, or originally, look a different way.
That being said it looks beautiful either way and I think you are over thinking now (I do it all the time). I’m sure it will be lovely on your day!!
Madeline789: No, I haven’t seen it in person and I live out of state. I think that is part of the problem.
I know you swear the lace is exactly the same, but I can see differences. Though I admit it’s easier when I have the original photo files and I can zoom in. The red line I drew on the original mimics the line in the pattern of lace. In the original it goes from the outside to the flowers on each side of the heart in the middle. On the altered dress, they moved the top squiggles down and over the rest of the lace pattern so the line is covered up half way across. That’s why I think they cut it. If they moved the WHOLE lace piece (which isn’t that hard because the dress isn’t lace but lace appliques on a satin dress), then the lines in the design would still go all the way across. Now I am worried I am going to get stuck with this altered dress that I didn’t ask to be altered like that and I don’t want it. I don’t think it looks “bad” but it’s not perfect and it’s my wedding dress so anything less than perfection is unacceptable. I’m only in this situation because they messed up by not giving the designer the right dates. Why should I be stuck with a dress I don’t want because of their mistake? Does that make sense?
The red line with the squiggles, and where you think they just cut it off is what I was looking at, and thats where people are saying that they took just the squiggles in the middle and had to scootch *that* part of the applique down and tack it (over top of the line you outlined in red in the original) because it needed to follow the curve of the neckline. If you take a look at all the other parts of the lace, including the “squiggles” on the sides (not covering the red line), it shows that 1) everything in the applique is lower down the dress than the original and 2) its all in the same place in relation to all the other aspects of the applique, which means the whole piece was moved, not just certain parts (ie the outside squiggles are in the same place in relation to the parts they touch on both the original and the altered dress, and all those pieces are also in the same place in relation to all the other parts that they touch, etc).
The only part that is different is, yes, the part where they had to cover up the line you outlined in red to make the lace follow the neckline, but if you really want that line (which I think enhances the lace applique and shouldn’t be covered up), I’m sure they can just switch it up – instead of the squiggles being on top of the line, fold it the other way so the line is on top of the squiggles, if that makes sense. If you look at the original applique, its clear that the line of lace along the top does not follow the curve of the neckline of the actual dress itself, and they had to do something to make it blend more cohesively. That being said, they definitely should have consulted you before doing anything! (but they probably thought they were helping you out, and doing exactly what you wanted in the first place)
I guess now you just have to decide if you can live with it the way it is, have them re-alter it, or go with the original, designed gown that you are ordering. I’m sure that whichever option you choose, you will be stunning 🙂
I think the original is miles better. Much more unique.
I think what upsets me the most is that she unilaterally decided how my dress was going to be altered- I get that she’s a pro but I would have appreciated a heads up! Though I know she had good intentions and just wanted it to be finished as quickly as possible because we are under a bit of a time crunch.
Thank you for better explaining how they did the alteration- it was really helpful. I prefer not changing the pattern of the lace, but I’m waiting to hear what options there are. She said she was going to check with the designer to see how they do that particular alteration and I am waiting to hear back from her. It just makes me a little sad that there’s a shadow of negativity I associate with my dress right now (irrational and kinda silly). I guess that’s something I need to get over and choose to be positive about. Your positivity is definitely a step in the right direction, hopefully it is contagious! I would like to be stunning, lol!
It’s hard to decide what to do without seeing the dress in person, hopefully I will be able to see it soon to make a more educated decision about what to do. You have a great eye and good advice- if you don’t mind me asking, what would you do?
If it were my dress, I think I would agree with you that the lace on the original is too high (its a little distracting, and might tickle! I hate that lol), but having the lace peeking up over the neckline is a characteristic of the dress which makes it unique. The altered dress is gorgeous, but the lace applique now just kind of blends into the dress rather than being a fundamental aspect of it because its low – it just doesnt catch the eye quite like before (though, on the original, it maybe caught the eye too much).
Perhaps you could find a middle ground, where they take the lace on this altered gown and move it up slightly, just not quite to the level it was before. If its peeking up slightly (like it is on purpose that it is higher than the neckline), then I think having the lace applique original shape (ie without the tuck to make it fit the neckline) would make more sense and be beautiful! just a centimeter or so above the neckline is enough. As it is now, I think having the lace that low smooths out the neckline too much, whereas the lace interuppting the neckline softens it, which is great on a lace gown.
If you want to keep it at the neckline (like it is now), and you aren’t happy with how the lace is sitting, they could untack the lace and let it cover the middle of the neckline – this would alter how the neckline looks slightly though, it would probably flatten it and you wouldn’t have such a shapely sweetheart. It also might be a little strange looking at it from a distance, because the “outside” of the neckline is smooth, but then in the middle it gets squiggly/lacy, quite suddenly.
Now, this is just my advice based on seeing closeups of the neckline – I have no idea what the rest of the dress looks like (I know its beautiful, of course, but idk what the skirt or style of the dress looks like :)), which could change what I think of the neckline. For example, if the skirt is interesting and “full of character”, then having the neckline also be interesting may be too much (so its better if it blends in a bit), or it could be perfect to balance out the dress. Who knows? Or if the skirt is simple, having the neckline also be smooth and simple may be what it needs, or you need to have the neckline be the focal point of the dress.
And another thing to think about is if its you? Do you feel comfortable in the dress, do you feel uncomfortable with any aspects of the dress, etc. Does that lace being too high outweigh the lace being low and slightly altered? Which one feels more comfortable and (perhaps more importantly lol) beautiful to you?
I had slight dress regret with my dress, because I had the neckline altered slightly and had straps added to it, and suddenly I couldn’t see me wearing that dress at my wedding. You know what I did (and I dont recommend this unless you know kinda what youre doing)? i took a seam ripper and took off the parts I didn’t like and redid everything all by myself (lol). I am so much happier because I made my dress how I wanted it and how i felt beautiful in it – I knew I succeeded when one day after fixing the neckline, it suddenly fit back in with my wedding vision. Obviously, this diy process took some time, and you don’t have much – but if you know what you want, your tailor is your partner through this, and they will help you 🙂
ETA: Oops, nevermind, I think I misunderstood what you were asking. If they actually moved the lace lower on the bodice instead of removing the extra scalloped edges on top, I agree that it may have altered the way the pattern of the lace was supposed to appear on the bodice, but I don’t think anyone will be able to tell from just looking at the altered dress.
I (finally) have an update! The salon owner is still waiting to see how the designer does the alterations. But I am going to see it in person on Saturday- maybe try it on and see how I feel- the goal is to feel beautiful. Unfortunately they said they can’t re-alter the dress. So my options are to take the altered dress or a new one that hasn’t been altered yet and oversee the alterations myself.
The bottom is scalloped so I guess that’s why the neckline is scalloped but the top of the back of the dress is actually straight across, so I think you could really do either.
And for fun, here are pictures of the full dress… no idea why the bee turned some and not others, but at least it gives you an idea.
I love the original but both look great!
I really hope you are able to try it on and love it the way it is though! It is a really beautiful dress!
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