Post # 1
When it’s an option, I do try to e-mail employers directly with my cover letter and resume (these are also the only people I’ve gotten a direct response from so far), but I’ve been wondering lately if it’s a mistake to only use the route provided for by job sites to apply.
How do employers even get a notice that they have an application? Do they get an e-mail or do they have to manually check that website? For example, I have an account on Monster, and it allows you to see if your application has been submitted, recieved, and viewed. Well, I have some applications that have been sitting there for quite a while without being viewed, and I’m kind of curious if that means they know it’s there but just haven’t looked at it, or they really aren’t checking their account with that job site.
I’ve had colleagues tell me I should phone the company and ask them if my application was received, but I’m kind of hesitant to do so because so many other sources have said doing so is an application killer. I can’t exactly be pushy, since I won’t be available for work until after I graduate and train someone at my current job, but I know the hiring process can take a little while.
Post # 3
@misskittenn: It very much depends on the website, the size of the employer, the job etc.
Generally the emplyer will recieve an email from the jobsite stating a new application has been recieved and certainly on the sites I use the email will have the CV and cover letter attached so I don’t have to phyically log in to look at it. This may be why the website is showing your applications as unviewed.
Also, very few employers will want to sit down and manually sift through all the applications as they just don’t have the time. Instead they will use a key word filter which can be set either on the job site or on their own system. This will cut down any applications without the requirements they are looking for. For example company is looking for a HR Assistant and to filter down they put in keyword of ‘SAP’ thus cutting down the applications. The downside of this method is that many perfectly good prospective candidates will never be seen.
To get around this you should sit down and work out what key words the employer may be looking for and put them in your CV (without lying obviously). The perfect CV will come with practice and experience but it is always worth having someone else look over it (do you perhaps know anyone with experience in the area you are looking at?).
As for calling the employer, it certainly wouldn’t do any harm if you are unsure if they have recieved the application. The worst that would happen is they tell you that the application hasn’t been successful and then at least you know where you stand.
I hope this helps a little but let me know if you need any more advice
Post # 4
I think more often than not if the employer has an ad out then its usually listed on their own website too with an option to apply directly. I’m not sure how job websites like Monster work in regard to the employer receiving your application, but half of the time I feel like everything is being sent into a void never to be seen again
Post # 5
I don’t think there is much point in submitting online that way. When I was between jobs, I never received any responses from those. I got some interviews from headhunters, and I ultimately got job offers from a professional contact who worked at a large company and from two guys I met in a restaurant who owned a small business in my industry. There is to much noise on the Internet. I really think you need some sort of personal/human connection to get noticed.
Post # 6
I actually got my current job via a job website. Our company has a Monster account and uses Indeed, as well (I work in federal contracting, but I’m a corporate employee, not a contract employee). Our recruiter will post jobs on our website and Monster, but he also actively searches for certain positions.
If we post a job on Monster and someone applies for it via Monster, our recruiter is notified.
My personal practice is to apply by e-mail/directly if the option is given, but still use the job sites (Monster, Indeed, Jobfox, etc.) in general.
I’m about to start job searching again in a few months, so I’m interested to hear what others say.
Post # 7
Often, the only way that employers will accept applications is online. I’ve had so many employers tell me, in person and via email, to submit online. A LOT of people will just delete emails they get because it said in the job description to ONLY apply online, and they see your email as a sign that you didn’t read the description or just decided to ignore that part.
Post # 8
unless it says specificllay in the ad to not call or follow up, by all means call. Do some google stalking if you have to. send the online application out. wait a week or two and then call. say something along the lines of ” hello, my name is Misskitten, and i am calling to check on the status of my aplication.”
who told you that calling hurt your chances?
the employment office that my mom goes to ( she lost her job and is trying to find a new one) tells people to call after a week, just to get their attention.
Post # 9
Ah, thank-you all for your responses! I’m trying to soak in all the advice, lol.
Yes, thank-you this does help! I’ve been trying to look at the job descriptions and trying to specifically include things they ask for if it matches the skills I have. If they say things like Photoshop and HTML then I type those exact things in my cover letter.
I know I definitely feel like that sometimes. I know it’s probably too much to ask that a company ‘close’ a position posted online once it’s filled, but it sure would be nice!
I do agree with this. I actually talked with one of my professors today and he told me that he actually knows some people for a job I applied to! So maybe that will get me somewhere, because I sent them my application earlier this month.
I’ve just always been told that you send out applications and wait, but I can see how that would be bad advice. I also in general get anxious about talking on the phone so that can be partially my fault.