How do you feel about the new BC mandate?

posted 2 years ago in The Lounge
Post # 121
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6379 posts
Bee Keeper

DoubleD :  I’m not sure I get your point, but I thought I agreed with your previous post? I was just pointing out the actual religion that believes in what you were talking about. 

Post # 122
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674 posts
Busy bee

DoubleD :  First of all DO NOT effin tell me I would let my child die because of religious beliefs, you have no business saying things like that! The fucking nerve of you though to tell me I’d let my child die because of God knows why, I just had a MC so your comment was unwarranted and very fucking upsetting. Second of all, I think that the freedom of religion is just as important as the freedom to free speech and any other rights we are guaranteed by our Constitution. I never said that I personally don’t believe in BC, if you read my previous post I recommended that Catholic or Christian businesses provide the BC that they view as not sinful in order to provide some form of free BC while not going against their beliefs. 

cbgg :  Thank you for clarifying that, I was not aware that churches were allowed these exemptions, they were the only reason why I felt it was important to not mandate BC to be provided by all comapnies as that directly goes against their beliefs. I agree that all other companies/instututions which are not religious fundamentally should be mandated to provide BC options to women.

Horseradish :  Read my comment above to cbgg. When I said the government shouldn’t interfere I meant companies that are fundamentally religious, not companies like Walmart which I hadn’t clarified earlier.

Post # 125
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: October 2014

feedthebeags :  And who gets to decide which companies are fundamentally religious?  Some are obvious. If you work for a church, that’s obvious. How about Chick Fil A? They are notoriously religious but their primary business is fast food. Are they a religious company that sells food or a food company that has strong religious beliefs? Would they be allowed to pick and choose their employees’ health benefits? How about Marriott? Papa Johns? Forever 21?

See why this is a very slippery slope? 

Post # 126
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: July 2014

i found this thread quite interesting, i dint know much about this.

i am in the netherlands, bc here isnt covered by the insurance. but we also don’t pay such expensive premiums. the most basic package is about 100-120 euros per month on top of which you can include extras like dental and physiotherapy. Mine amounts to 130 per month anf i have about 400 euros own risk which i have to pay mysef before insurance kicks in.
before i lived in france and BC wasnt covered or wasnt fully covered under your insurance.

Post # 127
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: July 2014

oh and as i see that in the US it has a lot to do with religion, neither in the Netherlands or France its the case. Most countries in Europe are completely secular, there is no place for religion in the way the state sets up the health insurance sector

Post # 128
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674 posts
Busy bee

Horseradish :  fundamentally religious as in a diocese, church funded charities and the like.

Post # 129
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674 posts
Busy bee

younikkitome :  I think you should tag the person who told a complete stranger online that they would let their child die because of religious beliefs in this gif not me, she escalated this.

Post # 130
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Newbee
  • Wedding: December 2017

DoubleD: yes exactly…. doesn’t make any sense to demand “religious freedom” for some yet but not others.

i think it is very dangerous to open the door to this and allow companies to pick what they cover or don’t cover a la carte. once you say that any “freedom of religion” must be enforced then what about religions that don’t believe in blood transfusions or some Christian Scientists who don’t believe in any medical treatment or Scientologists who don’t believe in mental health care???

just seems that allowing companies to “opt out” of covering certain aspects of scientifically proven effective medical care regardless of the reason is starting down a very slippery slope… 

 

Post # 131
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: January 2017

feedthebeags :  Actually, you’re the one who escalated it with your tirade but ok whatever you think I should be doing on the internet. She asked a hypothetical question and you’re obviously very sensitive right now and lashed out.

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