How does the marriage process work?

posted 7 months ago in Logistics
Post # 2
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: June 2017

Where I live, a licenced officiant legally has to say certain lines in the ceremony for the marriage to be valid. We also do all of the signing during the ceremony. But I know this is not the case for everywhere in the world. So yes, for us the ceremony absolutely held real weight. Our officiant sent off the marriage license herself but I know of others who had to do it themselves. I’m not exactly sure what you mean about the marriage being valid though? 

I do know that in many European countries, the legal ceremony happens in the courthouse, and the “second” ceremonies are for religious or personal reasons. So in that case, the second ceremony would be extra and for sentimental or religious purposes, not a legal necessity. This wasn’t the case for my own country though. We only had one ceremony (outside of the courthouse) which was in itself legally binding. 

Post # 4
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: June 2017

lauralaura123 :  This is a good question and I am not 100% sure of the answer but I would assume so? I don’t think they would ever ask to see your marriage certificate at a hospital before letting you see your husband.

Post # 6
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: October 2018

lauralaura123 :  I can only speak for where I live, but you do need a copy of your marriage certificate to get all of those things. They’re easy to get. You just take the signed license down to the courthouse you got it from. Darling Husband and I were able to get copies of the certificate the same day. 

Post # 7
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: June 2017

lauralaura123 :  We needed to wait to have our marriage certificate before we were able to apply for anything like that, and I needed it before I could get started on the name change process. Although you definitely don’t need to be married to open a joint bank account. Unfortunately for us it took over 2 months after the wedding to get our marriage certificate, in my province you can only apply online and wait for it to come in the mail. 

Post # 8
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Bumble Beekeeper

lauralaura123 :  I my state in the US, the signature is stating “we had the ceremony and agreed to the vows.” So the ceremony is definitely required — it’s basically a verbal contract. The whole process is: Get a marriage license which says you are allowed to get married. Then have to have a ceremony where a licensed officiant has you verbally agree to certain things and make certain promises. Once that’s done, you and the officiant sign the licence, stating that you have had the ceremony. The officiant sends in the signed document, the registrar records it, and you can then request a copy of your marriage certificate which is proof that the marriage happened and has been properly recorded.

Between the time of the ceremony and receiving your certificate, you are married. For example, if someone along the line makes a clerical error, you don’t have to redo the entire process, you just correct the error. It may delay getting the certificate, but when you do get it, it will still have the date of the ceremony as the wedding date. It’s not that you need the physical certificate in order for the marriage to be valid, it’s that you need it in order to PROVE that it’s valid. That’s why it’s required for changing names, etc. 

Reading your update, it sounds like your country uses a written contract as opposed to a verbal contract. The contract that you signed probably says stuff like “I agree to take this person as my spouse, share our households, take care of each other” etc. This would make the ceremony redundant from a legal perspective, but it’s still a nice social and possibly religious tradition for people who care about those aspects.

Post # 9
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Honey Beekeeper
  • Wedding: November 1999

You will get the best answers looking up this information on the website of the jurisdiction in which you plan to get married. Tell us where you will marry and I am sure Bees an help you find the information.

All these random responses may not apply to your situation at all.

You referenced  the country where you grew up. Are you still living there? Will you marry there?

Post # 10
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4830 posts
Honey bee
  • Wedding: July 2018

You can still change your name by deed in most countries without being married and you can open a joint bank account with anyone, it doesn’t need to be a spouse.

Post # 12
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Bumble bee

lauralaura123 :  “so until it is in the county clerk’s database…does it still count as official (ie if your new husband got in an accident would you be able to visit him in the hospital etc)”

I asked this EXACT question before I got married. The ceremony was on a Saturday, but the county clerk’s office wasn’t open until Monday. No, the marriage was NOT legally official until we brought in the paperwork on Monday. I have no idea how a hospital would’ve responded if he got into an accident that Sunday, but I was not his legal next of kin. (I’m in the US.)

Post # 14
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: August 2018

It’s a written agreement in the US, you exchange vows, sign the papers, have your witness sign and then you or the officiant sends in the paperwork to make it legal. It’s bound by paperwork, it’s not just off vows.

lauralaura123 :  

Post # 15
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: July 2018

“I think it is interesting that the marriage is a verbal agreement here in the US, whereas other places it is written. I wonder why this is?”

That isn’t really true though, obtaining a marriage license doesn’t make you legally married. They expire after a certain number of days and if you don’t have a legal ceremony before that then you won’t be legally married.

Most other countries don’t operate that differently from the US when it comes to the legality of marriage.

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