Post # 106
slomotion : the problem is, if they give in, the toddler’s behavior is rewarded and he will do this in the future anytime he doesn’t get his way.
This is not to say that there isn’t a problem at the border. There is. But he’s manufacturing an emergency so he can fulfill his promise of his wall. He approved a bill just before the shut down that did not include funding for his wall, and Fox News did segments on how weak he was for approving it without his funding. Now he’s manufacturing this crisis so he doesn’t appear weak.
There have been multiple bills proposed by the dems that McConnell will not allow a vote on, because Trump will not sign them. If McConnell allows the votes and it goes to trump who vetoed the bills, there can be a vote to override the veto. McConnell knows this so he’s not allowing it to get to trumps desk.
What gets under my skin is that Trump and company are saying that the dems don’t care about border security. That’s false because there are funds in these bills for security, just not for Trumps monument.
I don’t agree with the wall. The best saying I have heard is that it’s a “4th century solution to a 21st century problem”
I don’t understand the need for this wall but I DO understand that some do believe in the wall. Differences of opinion, whatever.
But seriously, why can’t we open the government back up while the debate about the wall continues?
Post # 107
Sansa85 : I feel you, I live in a border state so I know all too well.
I came up with a plan: we build the wall but we build it entirely out of old McDonald’s playscapes and there is a twisty slide every thirty feet. It’s patrolled by an ominous Ronald McDonald armed with a semi automatic weapon.
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Post # 109
What Sansa85 just wrote. ^^
There was no emergency last month when the president was set to sign a continuing resolution. No emergency for the past 2 years when his party held the majority in the congress and senate. But…there’s an emergency now ever since Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh and the Freedom Caucus called him weak? It’s his own personal ego emergency, as I see it.
Being a furloughed fed employee affords me a lot of extra time so I read the 2018 DEA drug and ICE immigration reports for myself. Drugs are coming through legal means of entry in over 99% of the cases and illegal border crossings are down, not up. I’m trying to understand what the rationale is for holding over one million citizens’ lives hostage, compromising a nation’s safety, as well as the economy’s well being for something that is a problem but not a true emergency. Now the emergency is happening within the country’s borders to actual citizens and he simply doesn’t care. There is no reason to use the entire country as leverage…ever.
My coworkers and I were in disbelief the Thursday before Christmas since we all saw he was going to sign a continuing resolution and then he did an abrupt 180. It was like Christmas was cancelled—coworkers returning last minute gifts, being scared to buy food for their upcoming holiday dinners, being anxious and worried over the holidays. I know I didn’t enjoy mine.
I wish McConnell would allow votes on the Senate floor already. Let due process take place.
Post # 110
I have a group psychology practice and one of the psychologists in my practice does a lot of disability evaluations for VA contractors. Those have completely dried up since the shutdown. Our weekly numbers have been significantly impacted by this and it’s going to affect our revenue stream (and the particular psychologist’s paycheck).
Post # 111
Gsxr06 : there was an interview with someone in Florida, a federal worker who is affected, and she said that she is upset because she voted for trump, that he’s the one who is doing this, and that he “ISN’T HURTING THE PEOPLE HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE HURTING”
That’s the Trump support in a nutshell
Post # 112
Sansa85 : I saw that. I scratched my head and thought, “Well, who is he ‘supposed to be hurting?’” I think the right word and thought is PROTECTING…not hurting. I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt and figured maybe the strain of the situation plus being put on the spot in an interview made it so she tripped over her sentiments and she didn’t convey them accurately but I still can’t reconcile that in my mind, to be honest.
Post # 113
Gsxr06 : That’s a generous take, more likely she said the quiet part out loud.
I work for a government contractor but have not been personally affected. I’m anxious for friends who are furloughed (I have a bunch of them, living in DC). Like PPs, I’m also very concerned about shelters for domestic violence survivors, the health and safety effects of FDA not being able to inspect food and medicines, and other things we rely on for our health and security.
Trumps’s approval rating has dropped to 37% because of this, so I’m hoping his party will read the writing on the wall and go around him. I seriously do not understand why they support him still.
Post # 114
I am a State employee working in public assistance so my job has not been impacted (YET) but our clients have. We distribute food stamps, TANF, and Medicaid and the future of those programs is uncertain right now. We are authorizing SNAP benefits for February by then end of January but any cases authorized after January 29th may not get any benefits for February. That is literally thousands of Hoosiers without food for an unclear amount of time. Funding for SNAP is not guaranteed for March at all so we don’t even know what to do or say to our clients at this point. If SNAP is not funded soon, it is likely that local offices will begin layoffs – first with contract employees and then on to State workers if needed.
Post # 115
Thank you for posting this!
I am grateful that I have been largely unaffected to date, but I am becoming more terrified with each passing day of the sheer chaos that we are seeing.
I am a government contractor for the DOE and thankfully our facility has a “slush” fund for this kind of crap. Several colleagues and customers on other projects are seeing the affects and work is slowing down.
I am flying a lot for work too and I’m dreading the day that some plane drops out of the air because someone couldn’t take it anymore and left a critical job undone (inspection, security, control, etc).
The true character of some is really shining with the way people are taking advantage of our national parks. Later, we will have to pay EVEN MORE to fix these damages!!
It is so sad that there are children of federal employees who are suffering (starving!!) because of a stupid idea to put a wall on the US-Mexico border (that…ICYMI… won’t solve a damn problem).
Post # 116
Curious… anyone having issues processing their marriage certificates? Or the birth of a child?
Post # 117
llevinso : Hah, I was literally thinking “Well, congratu-fucking-lations” her sanctimonious LYING bullshit. I am literally physically ill at all the comments about “who would be dumb enough to live paycheck to paycheck”
My town is immediately outside the 3rd most visited national park. It didn’t have a food bank until yesterday one was set up because here EVERYONE is employed by the park service. So in single families, both earners are laid off.
Post # 118
Gsxr06 : I really did not like how zero context was given around her statement. I told myself to be generous rather than reactionary and thought well maybe she meant he was supposed to hurt the elites, the rich & powerful, drain the swamp and all that. NYT should have given context, it came across as baiting to me without any.
I’d love to know that she did mean it that way, it would be a good sign that at least some of his supporters are getting hip to his smoke & mirrors.
Post # 119
What is everyone’s take on that letter from an anonymous source about how the gov’t is going to use this as an opportunity to “trim the fat” per se and not bring back any of the non-essential employees? Saying that they’ve already been deemed non-essenitial, so they don’t deserve to be employed? Lemme see if I can find a link.
Post # 120
Not the source I would have chosen, but I’m pressed for time, just realized it’s time to go pick up the kids from school lol. Interested to hear what people think of this shadiness!