(Closed) How long could you survive in the wild?

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Post # 3
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: November 2013 - St. Augustine Beach, FL

They’re young and probably inexperienced.  They probably split up at some point due to an argument or due to delirium from lack of food and water.  I just don’t see most 18-19 year olds being emotionally responsible for another person to the point of realizing that separating while lost in the woods is a bad idea.

Post # 4
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2010

Teenagers can be impulsive, and a little (lot) stupid sometimes. I can see how this would happen.

Even my husband, who has backpacked through 24 countries and is experienced, was super stupid and wound up lost on Mt. Sinai with no map, light, food, or water (or phone) at night, because he thought the trail was obvious (it wasn’t) and he thought he would get back before dark (whoops).

Happens to the best.

Post # 5
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: October 2013

The easiest answer is that “it depends”.

Once people get dehydrated or in shock, it’s definitely possible to make some stupid mistakes.  Then you make more mistakes as you become weaker.

Even with the right equipment, you can still get lost if you don’t use it properly or pay attention to your surroundings.  Happened to me in Yellowstone’s backcountry a couple years ago.  There I was surrounded by maps, a compass, food, water, and shelter, and found myself woefully off the trail.  In the end things turned out *fine*, but I was also in a major bear management zone the year several people had been mauled to death by bears and it was getting dark.  I don’t recall ever being so spooked.

Depending on where they were at, staying in one place may not have been a good option.  If it is foul play, most likely a third party is involved.  My guess is that they got lost and confused; maybe they had an argument and that is what caused them to split up.

Post # 6
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: April 2012

Ah, thanks for posting this. They have been covering this on the local news channels constantly but I havn’t kept up with it. That canyon is a pretty easy hike and it is very difficult to get lost there. So, this is just weird to me. I don’t know if foul play was involved or not. Yeah, it is odd that they were not found together but we will see what he says once he comes to.

Post # 7
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Busy Beekeeper

I hope they find her. To answer your question… I have no idea. This just reinforces my ambrivlance when it comes to camping/hiking.

Post # 8
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Worker bee

My parents almost got lost in the palm springs desert.

Post # 9
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

I’m guessing there was a slew of poor decisions that led to where they are now.  They may have figured that splitting up would increase the odds of them getting found.  When you are lost you are supposed to sit still, but isn’t always the intuative thing to do.  Sometimes you think that if you keep moving you are bound to find your way.  And since they are young and presumably inexperienced, they may have not thought to leave clues or a trail. 

I hope they find the girl.

I personally have never been lost in the wilderness.  I do a lot of hiking and backpacking and am very good at finding my way.  However, I am absolutely HOPELESS in cities. 

Post # 10
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: July 2010

What a sad story.  Why on EARTH would they not stay together?  Makes absolutely no sense. 

Post # 11
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Sugar bee

Oh goodness. I hope they find her alive 🙁

Post # 13
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2014

I have a friend who lives in the area. She said it is in no way wilderness- more like a large city park. They found the girl a half mile away from their car, a 15 minute walk at most.

I do a lot of hiking and backpacking and these stories really bother me. Rescues use up tens of thousands of dollars of resources and put SAR people in danger (in real wilderness areas, at least). Where I usually hike, in New Husband, they are starting to bill people for rescues if their negligence causes them to require SAR. The goal I think is to deter people from venturing out into the wilderness unprepared. It’s been pretty controversial, but I do think that something needs to be done about the people who call 911 when they get tired and launch a $10000 rescue effort.

Obviously, it’s a different situation when you’re prepared but something out of your control goes wrong, like a serious injury.

Post # 14
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: September 2017

@LadyBear:  I just read this! so glad they found her! I was preparing for a bad ending to that story and I just went to google and saw the update! The whole thing is rather strange though…

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