(Closed) How many Christians really support gay marriage/gay rights?

posted 8 years ago in Christian
  • poll: Are you religious and do you support gay rights?
    My church doesn't support gay rights, but I do personally. : (200 votes)
    22 %
    I personally support gay rights and so does my church. : (107 votes)
    12 %
    My church supports gay rights but I do not personally. : (3 votes)
    0 %
    My church doesn't support gay rights and neither do I. : (116 votes)
    13 %
    I am religious and support gay rights but I do not attend church. : (171 votes)
    19 %
    I am not religious and I support gay rights. : (310 votes)
    34 %
    I am not religious but I do not support gay rights. : (9 votes)
    1 %
    I don't know what my church believes and/or I don't know what I believe. : (3 votes)
    0 %
  • Post # 212
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    11744 posts
    Sugar Beekeeper
    • Wedding: November 1999

    The amount of separate but equal talk going on here is shocking to me – here I thought the human race had progressed since the 60’s but clearly not. Silly me.

    Post # 213
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    11744 posts
    Sugar Beekeeper
    • Wedding: November 1999

    @bookworm88:  +1 to your question about other religions. I’ve been waiting for the answer to this as well. I asked it to a PP a few pages back since she said marriage is a Christian union between man and woman. 

    Post # 214
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: December 2012

    I am non-denominational Christian, and I do not agree with homosexuality. Unlike some Christians I’ve met, I do not consider it a “worse” sin than others: alcoholism, adultery, murder, etc. I don’t “bash” drunks, so why would I bash gay people? I honestly don’t care what you do with your life.

    However, I am realistic in knowing that America is not a theocracy. My religious views cannot rule “The Melting Pot.” Although I believe that marriage is a spiritual union between a woman, man, and God, our country considers it a legal contract, nothing more.

    In this light, and the benefits thereof, I do think that everyone should be able to enter into a legal contract. What the basis of that contract is, well, that’s up to them. I do not feel that I am contradicting my beliefs when I view it this way, but being realistic about the times we live in and adapting my beliefs to what I know and understand.

    Post # 215
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    4369 posts
    Honey bee

    @Torrid:  Love it. An idea that respects both one’s religion and the concept of the equality of laws in society. 

    Post # 216
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: December 2012

    @SoupyCat:  I think people of all beliefs and creeds can be reasonable in regards towards others if they choose to be. Unfortunately, all too often a person will only consider one perspective because they have been in a safety bubble their whole life when there are many compromises out there if someone chooses to look for them.

    Post # 217
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    Buzzing Beekeeper
    • Wedding: December 2012

    To answer the Original Question that moonadea:  posed….

    YES I do believe that if you look around you’ll find a Christian Denomination (church) that is supportive and accepting of gays and their lifestyle

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    To be honest… with a topic like this one, I am so relieved that I live in Canada… where these basic human rights of Marriage are afforded to both Straights & Gays and ALL the benefits that come along with our Government recognizing these rights.

    As a matter of fact, these rights are also afforded people like myself who are also living Common Law (for whatever reason).  Another thing that isn’t available to couples in the USA…

    And BOTH of these rights although afforded to Canadian Citizens (and also in many other countries the world over) … are inturn denied in the USA when we visit there…

    Example… If someone is a Canadian Citizen and travels to the USA, and their life partner (be it their Gay Spouce or their Common Law Partner) was to become ill, or worse die… the other person has NO RIGHTS in the USA in regards to their care etc… BECAUSE the USA doesn’t recognize these “unions”.  I have first hand seen the pain that this can cause to loved ones who find themselves in a tragedy to begin with.  Where their “life partner” is brushed aside until the US Authorities can reach a QUOTE “Family Member” / Next of Kin (usually a child, parent or sibling)… This is a horrific slap in the face to these life partners… and yet but another reason that this is a ridiculous situation in the USA currently.

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    All that aside, I cannot for the life of me at 50+ Years Old not see that the Gay Rights Movement of the 21st Century in the USA, is the “Civil Rights” Movement of this age.

    The religious rhetoric that I am hearing now, so parallels a lot of the same statements that were made during the 1950s and 60s when I was a child… back in the day when Blacks had no rights, were an oppressed people (can never wipe from my mind the images that I saw in the US South when I first travelled there as a 10 Year Old… even at that young age, it was very clear to me that something was WRONG with this thinking)… A time when people truly believed that being a “Negro” and wanting rights was a threat to everyone else.

    Back when I was a kid, “the coloureds” were treated as something LESS THAN 2nd Class Citizens.  That the idea of them getting an education, a decent job, or being in charge of their own lives (including who they fell in LOVE with and married), chose to have children with, give or recieve blood etc.  It was somehow a thing that the White Majority felt was THEIR BUISNESS… and so they needed to put their nose in it… because they feared that life would be over as they knew it… if Blacks were ever “allowed” such rights.

    And sadly, I also recall… that a lot of folks wrapped themselves in their Religious beliefs claiming that to make such changes were “unbiblical, not-natural, etc”

    Just substitute Gays for Blacks, and Straight Majority for White Majority… and here we are some 50 years later… and things are pretty much the same.

    So what of the 1950s, and the centuries before that ?  Were our forefathers wrong?  Were the Blacks less thans than everyone else?  Were the Preachers, the Politicians and the Congregations right?  And what of the pulpits they stood behind, and the bibles they thumped… was the message of Slavery that they “quoted scripture and verse”… wrong?  Or were those long upheld beliefs right ?

    Point is times change.  Mankind changes.  The things we accepted as fact 1000 years ago isn’t necessarily realistic and fitting to the world we live in today.  Mankind grows… and gains knowlege.  The world changes, and world becomes a smaller place.  Things we didn’t understand before because “it was so far beyond our realm”… today is a mere click away on the Internet, or a few hours in a plane

    In the 21st Century, I truly believe there is no place for HATE and INTOLERANCE that is based on ANY of the following… Nationality – Colour – Language – Culture – Creed / Relgion – Gender – Sexual Orientation – Physical or Mental Abilities – or anything else that keeps us all from realizing that our “human experience” is more ALIKE THAN IT IS DIFFERENT.

    That is what I strive for… because I believe that GOD IS LOVE… no matter which “church” I find him in, which religious group I belong to (or not).  Christianity is well and good… but so are ALL the other religions too… as someone else said, it is all about “faith”… a belief that there is something greater than all of us alone.  And I don’t for one minute think that I am any more worthy than the next guy of a place in Heaven (if there is indeed a Heaven… I personally like to believe that there is)… so I believe that that “space” will be filled with a spectrum of people (In Heaven as it is on Earth)… from every man-made country and religion (be they Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims or anything else) … as well as God given colour, language, gender, sexuality, and abilities & disabilities

    IF they are GOOD People, who believe in the basis of the Golden Rule, and strive to practice it in their daily lives… not just pay it lip service… (Do onto others… as you’d like to be done onto you) then I suspect they’ll be a space for them in Heaven.

    We are ALL Children of God.  And as such, we should embrace and care for one another.  That is it, that is all folks.

     

    Post # 218
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: September 2013

    @This Time Round: Everything.  Just all of it.  Every single thing.

     

    Post # 219
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: December 2012

    @This Time Round:  Other than the fact that I am in no way religious, I agree with everything else you have said.  WHen does this world wake the hell up and realize we are in 2012 not back 100 years.  

    Post # 220
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    Buzzing Beekeeper
    • Wedding: December 2012

    TO – lia22:  Not religious… not a problem.  Like I said the KEY is the Golden Rule.  It is how you live your life… and how you treat others.  Period.

    Sounds easy but it really isn’t… it is the ongoing struggle that we all face every day… and the CHOICES that we have to make.

    Thing is at first glance it “sounds easy”… but in reality, it isn’t.

     

     

    Post # 221
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    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: February 2012

    @This Time Round:  Amen! I bloody love that post!

     

    Post # 222
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    2583 posts
    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: September 2012

    @This Time Round:  Of course, you’re right about all of this – which is why, like I said before, EVERY.SINGLE argument against gay marriage eventually boils down to “gay people are icky”.   It would be a lot easier for all of us if people would just admit that, as opposed to hiding behind a couple of quotes from a book, and ignoring the rest of that book, which preaches love, and preaches leaving judging up to God.

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